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Governor vows criminal prosecution of reporter who found flaw in state website

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Re: Governor vows criminal prosecution of reporter who found flaw in state website

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VPN doesn’t matter here. OP made it clear he was logged into the system first. Presumably all data is blocked until you are logged in. And if you are logged in, IT admin does not care about your IP address when they have your username.

Unless the IT guy was accidentally letting it slip that there was no authorization implemented at all.

Which in context? Is very, very likely

Re: Governor vows criminal prosecution of reporter who found flaw in state website

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Is prosecuting reporters not, like, definitionally fascist?

Right, you don't need any other supporting information and you don't have to bring political parties into it. If a politician is prosecuting a reporter for embarrassing the state - not for committing a crime - they are a fascist.

i don’t think either of you is correct. there are many tenets of fascism, and prosecuting (or straight up imprisoning) journalists is a common occurance in socialist and capitalist countries. by your definition a lot of capitalist and socialist countries around the world are fascist, which is false.

Re: Governor vows criminal prosecution of reporter who found flaw in state website

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After the Affordable Care Act went into effect I signed our company up for our state's marketplace. While browsing our plan options, I noticed the url used a scheme like marketplace.org/employers/341/plans.aspx. Of course, I tried changing the number in the url to 342 to see what happened. To my astonishment, it loaded up the next company's plans, including a list of employee names, ages, plan cost, and SSNs. After I…

How is it a bad response? They want to know what data has been exposed and ensure you delete that data. That's data leak 101. Why would you be defensive about it?

Because he was clearly trying to threaten him?

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We live in a world where everyone thinks they understand computers and have an expectation of security and privacy, but they don't realize how hard it is to build these systems correctly. The best security appears to be invisible to the consumer, but requires a lot of thought by the implementer. This is the same reason why I think most of the general public don't understand how much data social media apps can collect…

> I'm not a mobile developer, but it would be interesting if iOS provided a service that allowed data to never leave the phone I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean the app wouldn't be allowed to send any data over the network? As soon as the app can send any data, it's trivial to hide in there whatever the app wants to send home.

My idea is that Apple encourages Apps and features / adds badges for those apps that only store data locally. The local storage should be able to identify different types of data. They provide an API that allows data to be queried so that whenever an App queries some critically of confidential data it throws a big warning.

Re: Governor vows criminal prosecution of reporter who found flaw in state website

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After the Affordable Care Act went into effect I signed our company up for our state's marketplace. While browsing our plan options, I noticed the url used a scheme like marketplace.org/employers/341/plans.aspx. Of course, I tried changing the number in the url to 342 to see what happened. To my astonishment, it loaded up the next company's plans, including a list of employee names, ages, plan cost, and SSNs. After I…

People have gone to jail for incrementing integers in URLs like that (most famously, weev).

Yes, but "weev" is also a well-renowned internet "troll". Basically - he appears to take joy out of denigrating, humiliating, insulting and doxxing other people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weev

He's also a neo-Nazi and white supremacist. I do believe in free speech, but some of the things he does seem to take it way too far.

And he famously doxed Kathy Sierra, a female technical writer who created the Head First series. I actually quite like some of the books in the series, and it's incredibly sad to hear incidents like this which actively discourage females in tech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Sierra

I suspect there's more to the AT&T incident than just, oh, I found a flaw, let me responsible report this to the relevant parties in responsible disclosure.

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This is 100% the correct analogy.

But this is assuming that the server has more agency than it does. Servers don't have minds and they don't make authorization decisions. This is more like someone giving you key to a filing cabinet in order to retrieve some documents and while you're there you snoop on the ones next to yours. Is this system more trusting of people than it should be? Probably. Does that mean you're allowed to snoop on other people's d…

If you give me the key to the files and don’t explicitly forbid me then it certainly does mean I’m “allowed” to look at the documents. You literally and explicitly just allowed me to do so by granting me access.

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From the article, it sounds like nothing even remotely questionable was done by the reporter who found the flaw: > "According to the Post-Dispatch, one of its reporters discovered the flaw in a web application allowing the public to search teacher certifications and credentials. No private information was publicly visible, but teacher Social Security numbers were contained in HTML source code of the pages."

Tell me if I'm reading this wrong. I want to be reading this wrong. Is this saying that when you viewed a certain page (which I assume had only one person's SSN visible, or perhaps other teacher information like names), the "invisible" SSNs were just hidden with `display: none` or similar?

I think what actually happened is that there was a page where you could get information about a particular educator. In the HTML source the server returned for that page private information about *that educator* was included in non-displaying elements.

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Maybe he was hoping OP didnt know about VPNs, it's not an uncommon scare tactic to imply being tracked is unavoidable.

Would be ironic since OP caught an exploit that their entire team wasn't smart enough to catch... yet somehow he wouldn't know about something as basic as VPNs?

Zero chance this was an issue of an entire team not being smart enough to check - everyone who touched this would immediately understand it wasn't in the authenticated flow. This smells like bad requirements being delivered to the implementers.

Re: Governor vows criminal prosecution of reporter who found flaw in state website

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After the Affordable Care Act went into effect I signed our company up for our state's marketplace. While browsing our plan options, I noticed the url used a scheme like marketplace.org/employers/341/plans.aspx. Of course, I tried changing the number in the url to 342 to see what happened. To my astonishment, it loaded up the next company's plans, including a list of employee names, ages, plan cost, and SSNs. After I…

It is very easy for IT managers to put the blame on "hackers" intruding into the network, instead of assuming they created an insecure system. In many companies this can work.

All hacks are ”sophisticated” because otherwise the other party would be ”dumb”
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