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Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting

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Re: Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting

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Post by dylan604 »

tombert wrote: post #38
dylan604 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being from Texas, I feel like Texas and Florida are in a race to wherever it is they think they are going. I feel like there needs to be a state level rivalry like colleges. Brings a new meaning to Texas State vs Florida State. Maybe they can have halftime shows too. I also think state laws should be copyrightable so that when other states copy their asinine laws, the originating state gets royalties.

Just to make sure that I got both experiences, I also lived in Texas for three years after leaving Florida.

You are a glutten for punishment! I moved out of Texas and moved to the west coast for a bit. I then eventually moved back to Texas for family reasons. Moving back was much worse of culture shock. Yes, I knew what to expect, but after being away from it and then dropped back in just reminds you of how bad different it is. Kind of like a boiling frog growing up, but then being the lobster as an adult.

Re: Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting

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Post by handrous »

denton-scratch wrote: post #97
handrous wrote: post #67

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> This was also the era of when the news would run phone polls on whether the Internet should be allowed or not. Clearly, people answered those polls incorrectly. It should definitely not be allowed.

I agree. Only elites should be allowed to use stuff like LSD, computers and the internet. This can be arranged simply by criminalising it; along with a social convention that elites don't get prosecuted. /s

No, no, no. More LSD. Less Internet.

Re: Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting

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Post by YeBanKo »

They gave notice and waited until the offending pages were taken down. The article does not specify what the original html looked like, it could be a simple artifact from testing, when someone dumped the entire object into a template for debugging or maybe they actually were using this as a sort of a data field and then used it, for example, in a js call call to served.

But the response from the AG shows they have no idea how internet works: “They had no authorization to convert or decode, so this was clearly a hack.”

Bigger questions: Who developed the system? Was it a contractor or in-house? If it was a contractor, are they gonna lose government contracts? Because, it sounds like they should. If it was in-house, are they gonna get training or some procedure in place to audit things going forward?

Re: Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting

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Post by dragonwriter »

NoGravitas wrote: post #60
kizer wrote: post #54

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Exactly. Thank you nosy media. This anti-press stuff started with Trump. Terrifying how authoritarian the right has become. Reporters, please continue “embarrassing” all states. The sane leaders and citizens will be thanking you.

> This anti-press stuff started with Trump. * gestures vaguely in the direction of Richard Nixon, waits for historians to chime in with earlier examples.

> Richard Nixon

There's a case that Spiro (“nattering nabobs of negativism”) Agnew is a better Nixon-era example than Nixon himself, not that it started then, either.

Re: Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting

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Post by tmm »

xxpor wrote: post #15
Bluecobra wrote: post #14

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When I was a student at DeVry University (a national for-profit college with 40 campuses) your SSN was your student ID. This wasn’t corrected until 2002 or 2003. :(

This was common at many schools.

My high school rolled out an ID system in 1998 using SSNs printed on every ID (staff and students). About a week later, they realized this was a bad idea and reissued 1000+ IDs without the SSN.

I still don’t know what the point of the ID cards was. They were just laminated paper, no RFID, magstripe, or barcode to open doors or to buy things from the cafeteria or school store. You didn’t need it to check out books from the library and no one ever asked to see it. And we got a new one every year.

I guess some vendor convinced the school that they needed ID cards and so they got them.

Re: Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting

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Post by mike_d »

Infernal wrote: post #78

> “hacker took the records of at least three educators, decoded the HTML source code, and viewed the social security number of those specific educators.” There's so much wrong here - am I to understand that if the state sends you SSNs in plaintext and you read them, _you're_ at fault?

> if the state sends you SSNs in plaintext

No no no. It was decoded from HTML, a process so complex Chrome is able to consume an entire modern desktop computer doing so.

Re: Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting

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Post by woodruffw »

NoGravitas wrote: post #60
kizer wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Thank you nosy media. This anti-press stuff started with Trump. Terrifying how authoritarian the right has become. Reporters, please continue “embarrassing” all states. The sane leaders and citizens will be thanking you.

> This anti-press stuff started with Trump. * gestures vaguely in the direction of Richard Nixon, waits for historians to chime in with earlier examples.

I highly recommend The Boys on the Bus by Timothy Crouse[1] for some fantastic contemporaneous analysis of Richard Nixon and his relationship with the press. One part that stood out to me: Crouse believes (and presents compelling evidence) that Nixon was one of the first presidents to really understand the press, particularly the press of the nascent information age. Goldwater and Agnew were of the more reactionary anti-press strain, as other commenters have noted; Nixon (per Crouse) genuinely loved the press (if not reporters themselves) and relished in his control over it.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_on_the_Bus

Re: Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting

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Post by idiotsecant »

tshaddox wrote: post #99
lostcolony wrote: post #94

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"And suppressing opposition is the natural outcome of the government doing its job. " - no it isn't. It's the natural outcome of shitty people being elected. The JD isn't "jackboots on necks" or whatever.

> no it isn't. It's the natural outcome of shitty people being elected. Okay, well it's the outcome of literally every government of non-trivial size and duration.

Your original intention, I believe, was to comment on the natural tendency of the system we've put in place. The phrasing "doing their job" has a slightly different implication, I think, of a system doing what it's "supposed" to do and not what it actually does.
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