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Re: OpenBSD 7.0

#181

Post by Koshkin » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:04 PM UTC

GordonS wrote: post #158

What init system do the *BSDs use? Is systemd an option?

They all borrow one from Slackware Linux.

Re: OpenBSD 7.0

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Post by chasil » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:06 PM UTC

GordonS wrote: post #158

What init system do the *BSDs use? Is systemd an option?

*YES*, systemd is an option. It is not the default.

https://lobste.rs/s/jx3cr6/initware_systemd_fork_runs_on_ope...

Re: OpenBSD 7.0

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Post by Koshkin » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:07 PM UTC

fithisux wrote: post #111

With a port of Dlang :-)

But no Rust, it seems.

(Wouldn't it be nice if the most secure OS was (re)written in the safest language available today?)

Re: OpenBSD 7.0

#184

Post by ndiddy » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:14 PM UTC

t-3 wrote: post #153

_ofdw wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Openbsd has consistently scored towards the bottom in all performance benchmarks that I've seen in the last few years, when compared to FreeBSD and various linuxen. I would personally never use it for a laptop.

OpenBSD has way better ACPI, power management, and less setup hassle than FreeBSD, and way cleaner and nicer out of the box than any linux distro. You don't generally have to hack on anything to get basic laptop functionality working, and the small loss of performance from mitigations, disabling SMT, etc. is really not as big a deal for me, because my laptop is used for ssh and web browsing, not compiling huge projec…

Even using it for web browsing, I found that Firefox was much slower on OpenBSD than it was on either Linux or Windows on the same hardware.

Re: OpenBSD 7.0

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Post by NexRebular » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:18 PM UTC

Datagenerator wrote: post #128

epitactic wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ESXi (free version), it works well though if I had to do it again from scratch today, I'd probably go with KVM

Tried Proxmox?

Or SmartOS?

Re: OpenBSD 7.0

#186

Post by pastrami_panda » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:20 PM UTC

Koshkin wrote: post #181

GordonS wrote: post #158

What init system do the *BSDs use? Is systemd an option?

They all borrow one from Slackware Linux.

Is this a joke or is there some interesting tidbit here? Both?

Re: OpenBSD 7.0

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:20 PM UTC

brynet wrote: post #77

Link to announcement: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce&m=163422237101753&w=2

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Re: OpenBSD 7.0

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Post by NexRebular » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:29 PM UTC

Time to upgrade the T-series SPARCs. Nice to have a free modern OS to keep that amazing hardware still in usable state.

Re: OpenBSD 7.0

#189

Post by ori_b » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:42 PM UTC

melony wrote: post #136

chousuke wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recommend giving OpenBSD a try over the others. It's just... a clean OS, and the base system is extremely well documented; to the point that I think it's the only OS you can learn inside out without ever using Google. OpenBSD might not be the best choice for any given use, but it's so remarkably consistent and understandable that I think everyone interested in alternative OSes should try it out at least once.

I don't want a OS where I have to read man pages and documentation to get around. The whole self documentation excuse is the same reason why Emacs is slowly losing market share. People want software that is intuitive, and failing that, have all answers available on their favorite search engine. Short of baking a chatbot or search engine into OpenBSD, relying purely on self documentation is not sustainable. Though the…

> and failing that, have all answers available on their favorite search engine.

Luckily, the manpages are available on your favorite search engine!

Re: OpenBSD 7.0

#190

Post by alfiedotwtf » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:47 PM UTC

Can anyone comment on how hardware support is these days? The last BSD I tried (4.4) wasn't that great with my laptop at the time