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Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

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Re: Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

#21

This is because Google and Microsoft have confused the users by allowing them to type whatever into wherever and they just figure it out. Some would call that good UI - probably myself included - but it teaches bad behavior and makes people dumber by obscuring what things really are.

If you paste a link into the google search box, a good fraction of the time it doesn't lead you on a path to arriving at that link. For example, try the URL of this page.

For me, zero results.

Re: Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

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post #2

Just yesterday I witnessed my friend type a url into the google search bar (on the results page). She found what she was looking for, so I guess that's alright.

On the rare occasions when I’m manually typing out a url, that’s what I do also, just in case I ever mistype it. It’s better than being directed to the wrong site.

Normally I don’t even need a url though, I’ll just google “chase bank” or wherever it is I’m trying to go.

Re: Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

#23
Those closing lines are applicable to so many other things, I like it!

    - [Users/Drivers/Students] don't really understand [interfaces/traffic/life]
    - [Computers/infrastructure/schools] don't really understand [users/drivers/students]
    - [Big Data/City Planners/Education Dept.] assumes that [users/drivers/students] are behaving in semi-rational manner

Re: Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

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post #20

Alternatively, "Every URL bar looks like a search bar to users."

Or "Every URL bar is made to look like a search bar". It's been 30+ years and it doesn't seem like we've been able to rethink or enhance the URL bar in any meaningful sense other than throwing search into it.

Every change to URL bars lately seems to make them less useful.

Let's hide the protocol, users don't need to know whether they are connected through http, https or ftp, right?

Let's make the URL bar jump about fifty pixels when you select it, so that your mouse cursor is no longer in the right place when you go to select a URL fragment.

Re: Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

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post #7

I suspect that's why Apple moved the URL bar to the bottom of the screen in iOS Safari. For better or for worse, it now stands out a lot more from the search boxed within websites.

They did this because Firefox (and other mobile browsers) has been allowing the option for years. It works better for one-handed usage. It's the kind of change that it takes a few days to get used to and then you never want to go back, that's the place where Apple really shines since they can force their users to adjust (most other products have to worry about users dropping off if configuration changes too much).

Re: Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally think the reason was to further reduce the need to move your thumb from the bottom of the screen. The current iteration of safari is the only mobile browser I have ever used where I feel comfortable browsing and switching tabs with only one finger. It's surprisingly well implemented, though some actions (such as accessing history or site settings) take a couple extra taps.

What does it do better than Firefox Mobile? It has all settings, URL bar, and tabs at the bottom as well.

I've yet to try firefox mobile on my phone, I've had no reason to switch from safari (most of my browsing is on Brave on my laptop anyway), but I'll give it a shot.

Safari in iOS 15 also has extension support, and apps like Hyperweb[0] make the experience very pleasant.

I also love the icon :P

0. https://hyperweb.app

Re: Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

#27

This is because Google and Microsoft have confused the users by allowing them to type whatever into wherever and they just figure it out. Some would call that good UI - probably myself included - but it teaches bad behavior and makes people dumber by obscuring what things really are.

If you paste a link into the google search box, a good fraction of the time it doesn't lead you on a path to arriving at that link. For example, try the URL of this page. For me, zero results.

Using the search box on Google. If you put search terms in the URL bar on Chrome you'll get search results.

Re: Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

#29

This is because Google and Microsoft have confused the users by allowing them to type whatever into wherever and they just figure it out. Some would call that good UI - probably myself included - but it teaches bad behavior and makes people dumber by obscuring what things really are.

In the 1980's, taking away the 'choke' lever which assisted starting a car was seen by some as removing a critical control.

Yet automatic chokes became standard, and today's drivers usually don't even know or care what a choke even is. Todays people have other things to spend their time learning.

People of tomorrow may not need to know or care what the difference is between a search box and a URL bar. All they know is they can type what they're looking for into any box, and they'll find it. And like the choke, it might turn out that most people might prefer not to know.

Re: Every search bar looks like a URL bar to users

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or "Every URL bar is made to look like a search bar". It's been 30+ years and it doesn't seem like we've been able to rethink or enhance the URL bar in any meaningful sense other than throwing search into it.

Every change to URL bars lately seems to make them less useful. Let's hide the protocol, users don't need to know whether they are connected through http, https or ftp, right? Let's make the URL bar jump about fifty pixels when you select it, so that your mouse cursor is no longer in the right place when you go to select a URL fragment.

my favorite least favorite is hiding everything but the domain. clearly, nothing useful can come from displaying anything after the TLD.
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