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Re: UK MP speech about freedoms censored by YouTube

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The video has now been restored: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VidUXZjzNVk

Worth a watch.

Should we "assume the best" by assuming this was taken down by AI, and without human check?

MP says: “This is an outrageous attack on free speech. Throughout the pandemic we've seen blatant attempts by Big Tech to silence opposition voices challenging the conventional wisdom. This episode serves as a further example of the worrying trend of strangling free speech"

"My speech at conference was carefully researched, wholly accurate & backed up with the latest scientific evidence."

"Govnt must stop the erosion of free speech online. That starts with looking again at the wholly inadequate proposals in the Online Safety Bill”

"The unambiguous attempt by YouTube to censor my speech is a warning."

"If YouTube is happy to attempt to silence elected Members of Parliament, then they are also happy to censor anyone uploading content to their services."

Re: UK MP speech about freedoms censored by YouTube

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And just to try and be helpful for the direction of the debate...

The issue isn't that YouTube can do this. They can, that is cool. Free world. The issue that is if they are going to do this everyone should respond. Nobody ever vetted YouTube as the arbiter of truth. They are not qualified for this, and they are going to screw up really badly.

If they're going to set themselves up for failure, we all have to make sure we're standing outside the blast zone when they screw up really badly.

Re: UK MP speech about freedoms censored by YouTube

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The video has now been restored: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VidUXZjzNVk Worth a watch. Should we "assume the best" by assuming this was taken down by AI, and without human check? MP says: “This is an outrageous attack on free speech. Throughout the pandemic we've seen blatant attempts by Big Tech to silence opposition voices challenging the conventional wisdom. This episode serves as a further example of the wor…

Yeah it seems likely to me to be an overzealous AI decision, given the background noise of anti-vaccine disinformation on youtube these days I wouldn't be surprised if they've turned up their algorithms at the cost of more false and marginal positives

What's strange however is them seeming to use this to try and 'strengthen' the online safety bill which in it's current form would already be damaging to free speech online (adds massive liability for illegal/'harmful' content if it isn't removed quickly so companies will most likely block more content as a result)

Re: UK MP speech about freedoms censored by YouTube

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post #3

And just to try and be helpful for the direction of the debate... The issue isn't that YouTube can do this. They can, that is cool. Free world. The issue that is if they are going to do this everyone should respond. Nobody ever vetted YouTube as the arbiter of truth. They are not qualified for this, and they are going to screw up really badly. If they're going to set themselves up for failure, we all have to make sur…

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Re: UK MP speech about freedoms censored by YouTube

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The video has now been restored: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VidUXZjzNVk Worth a watch. Should we "assume the best" by assuming this was taken down by AI, and without human check? MP says: “This is an outrageous attack on free speech. Throughout the pandemic we've seen blatant attempts by Big Tech to silence opposition voices challenging the conventional wisdom. This episode serves as a further example of the wor…

  > "Govnt must stop the erosion of free speech online. That starts with looking again at the wholly inadequate proposals in the Online Safety Bill”
why don't they (govt) open a public video site for anyone to upload to, so they don't have to mess with private sites?

forcing private entities to host things they dont want to sounds like a huge can of worms

Re: UK MP speech about freedoms censored by YouTube

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post #3

And just to try and be helpful for the direction of the debate... The issue isn't that YouTube can do this. They can, that is cool. Free world. The issue that is if they are going to do this everyone should respond. Nobody ever vetted YouTube as the arbiter of truth. They are not qualified for this, and they are going to screw up really badly. If they're going to set themselves up for failure, we all have to make sur…

Sadly, YouTube is among Google best products. Myself do lots of cognitive load to avoid google services when possible, but yt has not rival amount quality of content and application. Im even paying for premium now. I'm paying with my dollars because there is no alternative except maybe the internet library..

Re: UK MP speech about freedoms censored by YouTube

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"Freedom is the reason the UK has had such a long an illustrious history."

I'm sure the inhabitants of the many countries the British invaded and continue to hang on to would disagree.

The Online Safety Bill he mentions in his outrage at YouTube taking down his speech is itself an attack on freedoms.

He's also part of a political party working to criminalise protests they disagree with.

Re: UK MP speech about freedoms censored by YouTube

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"Freedom is the reason the UK has had such a long an illustrious history." I'm sure the inhabitants of the many countries the British invaded and continue to hang on to would disagree. The Online Safety Bill he mentions in his outrage at YouTube taking down his speech is itself an attack on freedoms. He's also part of a political party working to criminalise protests they disagree with.

> I'm sure the inhabitants of the many countries the British invaded and continue to hang on to would disagree.

The political systems of every one of those countries are freer today than they were before the British “visited”.

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