Call of Duty Adds Kernel Level Driver for Anti-Cheat

Post by somerando7 » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 5:20 AM UTC

xerxes901 wrote: post #154

The whole "super intrusive anti-cheat" thing is really annoying to me as a non-competitive player, who just plays games like CoD, CS, etc occasionally with friends. And not just academically annoying, but practically too. I used to run Windows virtualised under Linux with a PCIe passthrough GPU. I remember having to re-install windows directly on my machine at a LAN party once because CS:GO couldn't be run in a VM an…

Post by int_19h » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 5:27 AM UTC

Spivak wrote: post #141

voldacar wrote: post #54

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No thanks. If I can't cheat without a program knowing, I'm not really in control of my computer.

That’s kinda the point? Anti-cheat systems, DRM, and consoles are a way for software publishers to extend their trust boundary to your computer. You’re effectively lending out your hardware as edge computing to run the publisher’s software (i.e. the game or video player) in a way they can be reasonably sure it’s running unmodified. I actually find this to be pretty darn reasonable.

Post by int_19h » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 5:28 AM UTC

everdrive wrote: post #84

If this happens enough, then a Windows gaming PC becomes a very expensive console. If all I do on my PC is game, then it doesn't really matter if it's got a rootkit (or kernel-level anti-cheat driver) or not. But, that's an expensive console. $600 - $2,000, depending on how nicely you want to game. A lot of the big popular online game culture really isn't fun anyway, so I'm not sure it's much of a loss.

Post by KennyBlanken » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 5:29 AM UTC

xkfm wrote: post #200

xerxes901 wrote: post #184

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I think my suggestion handles this situation though. If the cheaters are playing well enough that you can identify them as cheaters, then they would be getting flagged by my hypothetical server-side anticheat as "good" and so need to run the client-side software too. Also I don't think "twitch streams" are a great sample of "normal level gameplay", most people there would be ranked comparatively highly in MMR I would…

For warzone, I don't believe that game has any sort of MMR, so the situation is a little different there compared to most other games people stream on twitch. Warzone seems to be especially bad, even when compared with other games in it's genre. There's also another issue where some people play with devices like Cronus which are borderline cheats and essentially hardware scripts (better/no recoil control, scripted bu…

Post by nemothekid » Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 5:31 AM UTC

munk-a wrote: post #87

gambiting wrote: post #36

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Rampant cheating in online FPS games is a problem right now . I've had more games ruined by cheaters than I can count. So how about yes, let's focus on fixing the problem at hand, and if it's used for something else(like single player games) then I'll complain about it. Right now developers have my full support to use whatever methods they can to make sure the hackers stay out. The game can boot into its own OS for a…

I think, honestly, the biggest issue in terms of cheating right now is a lack of responsibility from the companies involved in actually reading and acting on reporting - some companies in particular (EA) are extremely lax in actually dealing with human reports and their games suffer greatly for it.