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That's at best neutral, but probably 'anti-marketing' as far as I'm concerned.

I've always appreciated LTT, while acknowledging that they do contribute to the tech-industry product innovation churn. They seem self-aware and truly knowledgeable about the tech.

I've probably only seen a few partial videos, (out of not wanting to see more of them) but it just comes across as consumer tech blog masquerading as more technical to me.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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> I believe they recently got more funding to expand operations because Linus from LTT said he was personally investing in them. That makes me feel a little bit better about waiting for a 14" form factor and/or an AMD chip IIRC he wasn't even a main investor and his investment was around 200k, which isn't that much.

Here we indicate who is under the impression he invested for anything other than promotion

Promotion of who?

Himself? Seems unlikely, he's more well known than Framework is and has easier ways to advertise.

Of Framework? Yeah that seems like it'd be an intended part of the plan.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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What’s the difference between the DIY and regular editions?

DIY version comes partially assembled and has more options when purchasing in terms of specs/components. The other comes fully assembled in certain pre-built configurations. You're getting the same laptop either way though.

https://frame.work/blog/the-evolution-of-the-framework-lapto...

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Centralize open hardware under an ex-Facebook team? No thanks. We can encourage more competition and innovation, in many niches.

Is is possible that they learned lessons about fairness and openness as a result of their experience at Facebook? Is the stain of being associated with Facebook so indelible that no redemption exists? I am no fan of Facebook and encourage all current employees to quit. I do worry about a future where actions committed in ones past are considered so severe to be unforgivable. I would hate to be judged in such a manner…

I agree with you 100% and think it's ridiculous that we crucify people over the past when brains are clearly capable of changing over time.

That said, I do think it's fine for companies to put a 12 month hiring ban in place for current Facebook employees. Such a move would speak to your organization's principles and hopefully make Facebook employees think about what their tenure at the company is doing to the world.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Is is possible that they learned lessons about fairness and openness as a result of their experience at Facebook? Is the stain of being associated with Facebook so indelible that no redemption exists? I am no fan of Facebook and encourage all current employees to quit. I do worry about a future where actions committed in ones past are considered so severe to be unforgivable. I would hate to be judged in such a manner…

I agree with you 100% and think it's ridiculous that we crucify people over the past when brains are clearly capable of changing over time. That said, I do think it's fine for companies to put a 12 month hiring ban in place for current Facebook employees. Such a move would speak to your organization's principles and hopefully make Facebook employees think about what their tenure at the company is doing to the world.

So you discourage FB employees from leaving the company because no one will hire them for 1 year? That doesn't sound like a wise idea.

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This is exciting! I do wonder how Framework will handle some of the logistical challenges associated with running a hardware company, namely distribution. I’ve been waiting on my Framework DIY Edition for several weeks now - it was estimated to arrive a couple of weeks ago but seems to be stuck in the purgatory that is Portland / Troutdale FedEx. Of course everything is kinda upside down in the world at the moment an…

Mine was delayed by FedEx for a week before being delivered. I chalked this up to what appears to be an at least nationwide FedEx slowdown rather than anything specific to do with Framework.

Of course waiting for my batch of the laptop took quite some time, and I'd be thrilled to see them scale that up.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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I think I have a somewhat relevant comment: as you might suspect for an Intel mainboard whose USB-C ports support such a wide variety of adapters, the USB-C ports on the framework laptop and those adapters are Thunderbolt 3-compatible, they just aren't certified yet.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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I agree with you 100% and think it's ridiculous that we crucify people over the past when brains are clearly capable of changing over time. That said, I do think it's fine for companies to put a 12 month hiring ban in place for current Facebook employees. Such a move would speak to your organization's principles and hopefully make Facebook employees think about what their tenure at the company is doing to the world.

So you discourage FB employees from leaving the company because no one will hire them for 1 year? That doesn't sound like a wise idea.

> So you discourage FB employees from leaving the company because no one will hire them for 1 year? That doesn't sound like a wise idea.

I think you'd want to give Facebook employees an out, such as asking them to speak to a better vision for Facebook. Or ask them to tell you that respecting a user's privacy and not manipulating their emotions is paramount at your company.

But the real intention of such a policy isn't to protect Facebook employees or make them feel safe. It's to make potential future Facebook employees think twice about seeking work there. Get them to question the things they would have to do or overlook if they chose Facebook instead of their other options.

Eventually such a policy might cause the Facebook's workforce to hollow out.

Society tells people that stealing and murder are wrong, and we point to the moral and judicial consequences of these actions. I don't see why similar social and career consequences for working at Facebook wouldn't help. And as you brought up, I think it's appropriate to give Facebook employees incredible latitude to side-step such a hiring ban. The goal isn't to harm the employees so much as it is to protect your own company's culture and to hopefully decrease the attractiveness of working at Facebook.

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