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Nonconsenting prisoners are the source of many organ transplantations in China

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Re: Nonconsenting prisoners are the source of many organ transplantations in China

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I'm not sure if you are "joking" or not aware of history, but here is some reading to answer your question why we don't do this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation

The nazis didn't invent human experimentation. Human experimentation happened in the US before the nazis. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/danvergano/cruel-medica... Also, we created the largest human experimentat during ww2 - hiroshima and nagasai which was used to test the short-term and long-term effects of radiation on a large sample size. On aborigines before the nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethica…

There is no assertion in my post that the nazis invented unethical medical experimentation which would be absurd. Neither did The US. It is a famous example taught in medical history classes.

Re: Nonconsenting prisoners are the source of many organ transplantations in China

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The nazis didn't invent human experimentation. Human experimentation happened in the US before the nazis. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/danvergano/cruel-medica... Also, we created the largest human experimentat during ww2 - hiroshima and nagasai which was used to test the short-term and long-term effects of radiation on a large sample size. On aborigines before the nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethica…

There is no assertion in my post that the nazis invented unethical medical experimentation which would be absurd. Neither did The US. It is a famous example taught in medical history classes.

> There is no assertion in my post that the nazis invented unethical medical experimentation which would be absurd.

But you asserted it's why we stopped. So your logic is we were okay with experimenting on black slaves, aborigines, natives, etc, but it was the nazis that made up stop? Even though we recruited these nazi scientists after ww2 and even though we continued with unethical human experimentation after ww2?

Why not admit you were wrong and just move on?

> It is a famous example taught in medical history classes.

Then you should ask your school to provide a broader/complete view of history.

We are still carrying out human experimentation on poor people - especially in africa and india. In case you were wondering.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/bio...

Re: Nonconsenting prisoners are the source of many organ transplantations in China

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There is no assertion in my post that the nazis invented unethical medical experimentation which would be absurd. Neither did The US. It is a famous example taught in medical history classes.

> There is no assertion in my post that the nazis invented unethical medical experimentation which would be absurd. But you asserted it's why we stopped. So your logic is we were okay with experimenting on black slaves, aborigines, natives, etc, but it was the nazis that made up stop? Even though we recruited these nazi scientists after ww2 and even though we continued with unethical human experimentation after ww2?…

Please take a look at HN Guidelines, especially:

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Nonconsenting prisoners are the source of many organ transplantations in China

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> There is no assertion in my post that the nazis invented unethical medical experimentation which would be absurd. But you asserted it's why we stopped. So your logic is we were okay with experimenting on black slaves, aborigines, natives, etc, but it was the nazis that made up stop? Even though we recruited these nazi scientists after ww2 and even though we continued with unethical human experimentation after ww2?…

Please take a look at HN Guidelines, especially: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

This is so sad. Stop trying to pretend you are a mod.

> "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

That's precisely what I did and apparently that was my mistake. Hope you learned something at least.

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