Maybe I'm just too pedantic, but this is not a functional language. Yes, you can write functional style code, but you can write functional style code in C, C++, Java, Python, JS, Ruby, Common Lisp, Scheme, etc etc. That does not make any of these languages 'functional'.
Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
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Re: Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
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I'm making an editor, Freja, which is like a tiny Emacs with graphical support. Makes it fun to create gui apps and games. :) Ultima Underworld inspired game I'm making for a game jam: https://youtu.be/1fWsV83P-S8 Demo of pixel editor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOBi805nxNc Freja: https://github.com/Saikyun/freja --- My experience has overall been very nice. I come from Clojure, and comparing to that: - so nice…
Why do you mean by ‘throw exceptions from C’? C has no exceptions.
In libjanet you can use a C call like janet_panic() that'll "panic" and throw an exception/error up in the active Janet runtime (so when something bad/unexpected happens in your C code you are providing an API to from Janet, you'd use this).
Re: Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
#33Maybe I'm just too pedantic, but this is not a functional language. Yes, you can write functional style code, but you can write functional style code in C, C++, Java, Python, JS, Ruby, Common Lisp, Scheme, etc etc. That does not make any of these languages 'functional'.
> Yes, you can write functional style code, but you can write functional style code in C, C++, Java, Python, JS, Ruby, Common Lisp, Scheme, etc etc. That does not make any of these languages 'functional'.
Lisp-family languages (both CL and its immediate predecessors, and Scheme) for a long time were the textbook example of functional languages. The relatively novel (and still niche) attempt to redefine things so that only pure functional languages are “functional languages”, and particularly the people that insist on this usage as if it were firmly established and abuse those who don't conform to their preferred redefinition, is a bit annoying.
Re: Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
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> Each thread has its own Janet heap, which means threads behave more like processes that communicate by message passing. https://janet-lang.org/docs/threads.html Janet doesn’t seem to have shared-memory multithreading. Each thread runs independently, so a GIL should not be necessary.
Though you can share memory manually, i.e. in C but access it from Janet.
I wrote similar here: https://github.com/ahungry/janet-pobox although it probably needs updates to work with 1.18 and above.
Re: Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
#35Off topic: Is it just me or are there any others who find naming programming languages with women's names a bit weird? Julia, Janet, Eve... I understand the guy referring to his car as his "girlfriend" and give it a women's name. I just can't feel the same about tech. I guess this may be the nerd's way of immortalizing their sweetheart, but if I was a woman I'd rather prefer to be a car and not a programming language…
Not named after a woman (or rather, named after not-a-woman): https://github.com/janet-lang/janet#why-is-it-called-janet
Re: Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
#36Off topic: Is it just me or are there any others who find naming programming languages with women's names a bit weird? Julia, Janet, Eve... I understand the guy referring to his car as his "girlfriend" and give it a women's name. I just can't feel the same about tech. I guess this may be the nerd's way of immortalizing their sweetheart, but if I was a woman I'd rather prefer to be a car and not a programming language…
Ada, Alice...
Interesting question, but it might just be a yellow volkswagon effect. Quickly looking at Wikipedia's list of languages, theres Babbage, Bertrand, Cecil, Darwin, Dylan, Escher, Euclid, Euler, Godel, Hume, Orwell, Tom, Zeno, and probably a few others I missed.
EDIT: Haskell and Pascal, how embarassing to miss those
Re: Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
#37This looks really interesting, going to check this out later today. Anyone using Janet for anything that would care to comment on their experience?
I wrote a few websites with it, notably: https://github.com/swlkr/janetdocs I also scraped together a large web framework and a small one: https://github.com/joy-framework/joy https://github.com/swlkr/osprey
I'm using your html library (a Clojure hiccup clone, sort of) and tw (tailwind) library, and often use janetdocs to find examples of how to use Janet functions. Thanks a lot man!
Re: Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
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Some interesting changes since August this year: - Threaded channels `ev/thread-chan` (`thread` has been deprecated [and removed in latest version [[1.18]]]) - JPM (Janet Package Manager) is now separate, not distributed together with Janet anymore - Janet binary can directly run image files with `-i`
(Not a lisp guy). What is an image and why would I want to run one? My best guess is that an image would be platform independent bytecode vs compiled executable?
I think of it as one of the defining features of Smalltalk, not Lisp, although there is plenty of cross-pollination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalltalk#Image-based_persiste...
Janet's object system seems to be modeled after ideas first popularized in the Self language -- a Smalltalk derivative -- so there could be some direct inspiration there.
Re: Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
#39Off topic: Is it just me or are there any others who find naming programming languages with women's names a bit weird? Julia, Janet, Eve... I understand the guy referring to his car as his "girlfriend" and give it a women's name. I just can't feel the same about tech. I guess this may be the nerd's way of immortalizing their sweetheart, but if I was a woman I'd rather prefer to be a car and not a programming language…
Ada, Alice... Interesting question, but it might just be a yellow volkswagon effect. Quickly looking at Wikipedia's list of languages, theres Babbage, Bertrand, Cecil, Darwin, Dylan, Escher, Euclid, Euler, Godel, Hume, Orwell, Tom, Zeno, and probably a few others I missed. EDIT: Haskell and Pascal, how embarassing to miss those
also Haskell and Pascal
Re: Janet – a Lisp-like functional, imperative programming language
#40Off topic: Is it just me or are there any others who find naming programming languages with women's names a bit weird? Julia, Janet, Eve... I understand the guy referring to his car as his "girlfriend" and give it a women's name. I just can't feel the same about tech. I guess this may be the nerd's way of immortalizing their sweetheart, but if I was a woman I'd rather prefer to be a car and not a programming language…
Ada, Alice... Interesting question, but it might just be a yellow volkswagon effect. Quickly looking at Wikipedia's list of languages, theres Babbage, Bertrand, Cecil, Darwin, Dylan, Escher, Euclid, Euler, Godel, Hume, Orwell, Tom, Zeno, and probably a few others I missed. EDIT: Haskell and Pascal, how embarassing to miss those
I was first introduced to programming with Pascal, can't believe I forgot about it until I saw your list.