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How To Break Your Daily Caffeine Habit And Use Coffee Strategically

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Re: How To Break Your Daily Caffeine Habit And Use Coffee Strategically

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The same benefits could probably be achieved by maintaing your current habits and then increasing sharply your caffeine intake at times when you need a boost. It's all relative, right?

Caffeine's main effect (though not the only one) is as an adenosine reuptake antagonist. That means that it makes it harder for your body to re-absorb adenosine in your bloodstream. Wikipedia has more detail, but effectively, your body will adapt to regular caffeine intake by increasing the number of adenosine receptor sites. So in the morning, when there is very little adenosine in your blood to begin with, more or less caffeine will not have much effect. But after you've been awake for a long time and there's more adenosine in your blood, increasing the amount of caffeine will not have as much effect because your body already has a lot more receptor sites, it's got some resistance to the effects. But decreasing the amount of caffeine will cause a "crash" where your body starts taking up lots of adenosine all at once.

So, keeping a baseline level of caffeine in your system causes your body to become resistant.

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#22
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? See, I drink mostly decaf espresso, and I'm pretty picky about my coffee, grind my own beans, etc. I can't tell a difference. If it's good coffee, it's good. If not, it's not, no matter decaf or regular. Am I the only one?

Really, that's interesting. Maybe I need to give it another try.

I mean, I have no doubt in your statement, I don't know many people who can't tell the difference, I just never have been able to.

Re: How To Break Your Daily Caffeine Habit And Use Coffee Strategically

#23
I've got a headache just thinking about trying to go cold turkey.

I drink 6-8+ cups a day and I have pretty severe sleeping problems.

I love the taste as well, but I certainly don't get a 'buzz' out of it anymore. I just.. drink it.

The advantages seemingly to give it up as a daily habit is the ability to sleep better, and to actually get a kick when you drink it.

Maybe I'll give kicking it it a try, ugh!

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I love the comments here. Screw the fact that it's a stimulant drug, it's "just caffeine". How many among the caffiene abusing crowd also go out of their way to demonize other, possibly less legal, drugs with similar or safer effects? Even ones with considerably lower lethal doses. "How to Break Your Daily Meth Habit And Use Meth Strategically". (edit, I'm not saying meth is an example of a drug "safer" than caffeine…

Really? Meth is similar or safer in it's effects?

No. Sorry, I should have been more clear. There are other drugs often demonized that have much less stressful effects than caffeine on the body and have lower lethal doses. While there is a lot of scare-mongering about meth as well, obviously meth is not an example of one of those drugs. I apologize that I didn't make that distinction clearer.

Re: How To Break Your Daily Caffeine Habit And Use Coffee Strategically

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post #8

A good practice in general is to rotate your receptors. In this case would mean alternating between coffee, tea, and maté, because each has different analogs in different proportions.

Citation needed...

I'm not sure if it's ever been tested scientifically. Apparently the advice comes from Jonathan Ott though, in case that gives it any extra credibility.

In general though plant-based medicines have tons of different compounds, so it's important to change the strain every so often or else it A) stops being as effective and B) is more likely to cause side effects. E.g. if you keep smoking the same strain of weed then eventually it is more likely to cause anxiety then if you use a different strain each time. Essentially you want to prevent your receptors (and neural network) from adapting to what you're doing to them, and the best way to do that is to not do the same thing repeatedly.

N.b. this is not the same thing is polypharming, which is generally something to be avoided.

Re: How To Break Your Daily Caffeine Habit And Use Coffee Strategically

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"Drink coffee and then take a 15 minute nap.". Advice like this makes it hard to take this article seriously. It's also a little thin on the data. Sure, it's an article on caffeine, so it'll rank on the geek sites, but do you feel richer or empowered after reading it?

I used to drink about 5 cups of coffee a day. I stopped cold turkey and life didn't seem worth living. So I scaled back to one cup of really really FUCKING good coffee every day. Jamaican Blue Mountain roasted beans, $40 a pound. That's right bitches. The only thing more expensive has passed through the asshole of a small cat-like creature. You already know what it's called because you're a geek and you're smart. Hey, I like pussy, but that's taking it a little too far.

So I take my one cup of blue mountain black, no sugar, milk or other evil pollutants. Fresh ground, French pressed. And then it's tea for the rest of the day to segway from my morning caffeine kick in the ass to a righteous l-theanine zen buzz.

Drugs are good. Smart drug use is better.

Re: How To Break Your Daily Caffeine Habit And Use Coffee Strategically

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My two thoughts:

1) Before you attempt to deal with a 'caffeine addiction', look at whether you have sugar addiction - which is far more dangerous for your health and more complicated to address.

2) Many of us don't get the amount of sleep we really need to function. Unless you sort that problem out first, you will just end up feeling sluggish and unproductive without the caffeine.

Re: How To Break Your Daily Caffeine Habit And Use Coffee Strategically

#29
post #28

My two thoughts: 1) Before you attempt to deal with a 'caffeine addiction', look at whether you have sugar addiction - which is far more dangerous for your health and more complicated to address. 2) Many of us don't get the amount of sleep we really need to function. Unless you sort that problem out first, you will just end up feeling sluggish and unproductive without the caffeine.

Thank you. I'm a habitual soda drinker, and I realized that after giving up caffeine (several times) it's really the taste of soda that brings me back; aka, getting my sugar fix throughout the day. I'm working on addressing this now even as I continue drinking caffeine, simply so I don't deplete myself of any self control.

Do you have any relevant articles on addressing sugar addiction? I'm not sure any grand strategies besides cold turkey.

Re: How To Break Your Daily Caffeine Habit And Use Coffee Strategically

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post #26

"Drink coffee and then take a 15 minute nap.". Advice like this makes it hard to take this article seriously. It's also a little thin on the data. Sure, it's an article on caffeine, so it'll rank on the geek sites, but do you feel richer or empowered after reading it? I used to drink about 5 cups of coffee a day. I stopped cold turkey and life didn't seem worth living. So I scaled back to one cup of really really FUC…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_nap#The_caffeine_nap
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