You Are Jeff Bezos
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#2>Here's where we get into the dicey business of what "personal worth" is, and how that translates to taxable income.
>Answer: It usually doesn't, because rich people are master frauds and charlatans who exploit loopholes in tax code to avoid paying their fair share.
>Jeff Bezos is worth $156 billion? You're using the top tax bracket of 37% and paying out $57.72 billion of that. You'd pay 99%, but then this would be a very short simulator.
That's not how it really works, right? He's supposed to pay tax on income not on wealth.
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#5This appears to either be a sincere product of a socialist Utopian who doesn't understand basic physical processes and tax concepts, or a cleaver work of satire. I'm unsure which at this time.
>You eliminate homelessness in the United States. Every person living in the US now has the guarantee of a roof over their head.
>This costs you $20 billion, or a trivial 12.8% of your starting net worth. You still have $136,000,540,000.
I really really wish it was that easy.
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#6I decided to "pay off personal taxes" >Here's where we get into the dicey business of what "personal worth" is, and how that translates to taxable income. >Answer: It usually doesn't, because rich people are master frauds and charlatans who exploit loopholes in tax code to avoid paying their fair share. >Jeff Bezos is worth $156 billion? You're using the top tax bracket of 37% and paying out $57.72 billion of that. Y…
Yes. That’s the trap most of these arguments for taxing the rich fall into under the current system. Having money and making money are taxed differently.
If you own a house and all of your neighbors sell theirs at a 30% markup, should you pay taxes on making $300,000 (for a 1mil house) this year? Maybe … seems kinda unfair though. You didn’t participate in those transactions and made no money to pay the new taxes with.
Should wealth be capped? Dunno, maybe. It would solve a lot of problems and yet feels a bit draconian.
Should wealth be repatriated by the state? Eh no let’s not go there. Large swathes of Europe tried that in the past and it’s still causing problems.
Should “rich people” be taxed? Yeah definitely. The hard part is defining what exactly gets taxed and how. Making people sell their assets to pay taxes on those assets seems kinda weird to me.
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#7This appears to either be a sincere product of a socialist Utopian who doesn't understand basic physical processes and tax concepts, or a cleaver work of satire. I'm unsure which at this time.
Great observation. I'd really like to hope it's satire. >You eliminate homelessness in the United States. Every person living in the US now has the guarantee of a roof over their head. >This costs you $20 billion, or a trivial 12.8% of your starting net worth. You still have $136,000,540,000. I really really wish it was that easy.
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#8I decided to "pay off personal taxes" >Here's where we get into the dicey business of what "personal worth" is, and how that translates to taxable income. >Answer: It usually doesn't, because rich people are master frauds and charlatans who exploit loopholes in tax code to avoid paying their fair share. >Jeff Bezos is worth $156 billion? You're using the top tax bracket of 37% and paying out $57.72 billion of that. Y…
If Jeff Bezos net worth increases by 1 billion over a year, he hasn't realized any of the actual gains and that profit it purely on paper. If he chose to live on 1M$/year then he only has to pay 370k$ in taxes that's how it works for you and me and that's how it works for him.
Does it make sense that he paid 0$ in taxes and bought a 300M$ yacht? Absolutely not and we should find ways to close that loophole. Does it mean that we should tax wealth? Absolutely not.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great observation. I'd really like to hope it's satire. >You eliminate homelessness in the United States. Every person living in the US now has the guarantee of a roof over their head. >This costs you $20 billion, or a trivial 12.8% of your starting net worth. You still have $136,000,540,000. I really really wish it was that easy.
It isn't that much more complicated than that — politics-wise, sure, but all you really need is housing and money to solve homelessness.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great observation. I'd really like to hope it's satire. >You eliminate homelessness in the United States. Every person living in the US now has the guarantee of a roof over their head. >This costs you $20 billion, or a trivial 12.8% of your starting net worth. You still have $136,000,540,000. I really really wish it was that easy.
It isn't that much more complicated than that — politics-wise, sure, but all you really need is housing and money to solve homelessness.