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Facebook Dangerous Individuals and Organizations List (Reproduced Snapshot)

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Post by Natsu »

korethr wrote: post #3

Huh. There's a lot bands in the "Hate" section. Looking up the various names I'm finding various death metal and black metal bands. I can't help but wonder how many of those bands on are on that list because someone at Facebook took heavy metal imagery and lyrical themes too seriously and literally. More Edit: Turns out I picked a bad example. I missed reference to a name collision with an actual National Socialist b…

Hard to say, but there's a history of the bands themselves taking themselves that seriously, e.g. -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Norwegian_black_metal_sc...

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Post by jazzyjackson »

psyc wrote: post #14
korethr wrote: post #3

Huh. There's a lot bands in the "Hate" section. Looking up the various names I'm finding various death metal and black metal bands. I can't help but wonder how many of those bands on are on that list because someone at Facebook took heavy metal imagery and lyrical themes too seriously and literally. More Edit: Turns out I picked a bad example. I missed reference to a name collision with an actual National Socialist b…

It’s not that. They’re pretty clearly white supremacist / neonazi metal bands, and that’s definitely a thing.

Poe’s law applies, impossible to tell who is parody and who is genuine without being familiar with the source.

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Post by korethr »

Miner49er wrote: post #19
enjoyyourlife wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a Lebanese terrorist organization See https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/h...

Ah, I was getting it mixed up with the thrift store.

That's probably deliberate. An intentional name collision seems a good way to run a front.

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Post by tallies »

korethr wrote: post #3

Huh. There's a lot bands in the "Hate" section. Looking up the various names I'm finding various death metal and black metal bands. I can't help but wonder how many of those bands on are on that list because someone at Facebook took heavy metal imagery and lyrical themes too seriously and literally. More Edit: Turns out I picked a bad example. I missed reference to a name collision with an actual National Socialist b…

From your first link, it says that that band changed their name because of a NS band with the same name. NS meaning National Socialist...

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Post by [deleted] »

korethr wrote: post #3

Huh. There's a lot bands in the "Hate" section. Looking up the various names I'm finding various death metal and black metal bands. I can't help but wonder how many of those bands on are on that list because someone at Facebook took heavy metal imagery and lyrical themes too seriously and literally. More Edit: Turns out I picked a bad example. I missed reference to a name collision with an actual National Socialist b…

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Post by cunidev »

korethr wrote: post #3

Huh. There's a lot bands in the "Hate" section. Looking up the various names I'm finding various death metal and black metal bands. I can't help but wonder how many of those bands on are on that list because someone at Facebook took heavy metal imagery and lyrical themes too seriously and literally. More Edit: Turns out I picked a bad example. I missed reference to a name collision with an actual National Socialist b…

To be fair, all bands I knew of listed there were indeed done with serious NS ideology. Even the most famous and "mainstream" Burzum runs a YouTube channel that expresses white supremacy ideas and racist weirdness.

Overall, the list appears reasonable to me and no (to me known) member is particularly surprising.

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Post by detaro »

korethr wrote: post #3

Huh. There's a lot bands in the "Hate" section. Looking up the various names I'm finding various death metal and black metal bands. I can't help but wonder how many of those bands on are on that list because someone at Facebook took heavy metal imagery and lyrical themes too seriously and literally. More Edit: Turns out I picked a bad example. I missed reference to a name collision with an actual National Socialist b…

Given that your first link says they changed their name because of a naming conflict with a known Nazi band, don't you think that maybe that other band is the one banned? And yes, that one is quite clearly a neonazi band.

EDIT: and at least the few names I recognize on that list also fall under that label.

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Post by janandonly »

hm...

Half of the Organizations in the "Hate: category seem to be based in Germany.

Almost all of the Organizations in the "Terror" category seem to be Islamic.

In the category "Crime" Brazil is overly represented.

There seem to be a shocking amount of "Armed Militia Groups".

I was surprised to find that "A.K. Chesterton" is affiliated with the "British Union of Fascists" ?? Is that correct? I seemed to be confusing "G.K. Chesterton" with "A.K. Chesterton" pfffffiew...

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Post by busterarm »

jdhn wrote: post #4

They have Ted Kaczynski on that list despite the fact that he's in prison for the rest of his life, and that he wouldn't use Facebook even if he was out. Is his presence on this list an indicator that Facebook is paying more attention to users/groups that talk about him a lot or share his ideals?

They also have Aum Shinrikyo listed as such even though they changed their name to Aleph (which is not listed) decades ago.

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Post by jazzyjackson »

bitlax wrote: post #5

So what's the deal with the militia groups? Are these groups listed particularly heinous groups or is this an editorial decision by Facebook, that they don't want militia groups to organize using their platform?

the US has a militia, its called the national guard, any other militias might be called “paramilitary”, and a private company might choose not to be the platform of paramilitary groups
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