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Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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1-2 hours away from a major city is actually kind of a sweet spot, IMO. Big cities have things like major hospitals and major employers, they have airports, they have baseball stadiums. They've also got social networks -- it's much easier to make friends in a place with 100,000 people your age than 50. Now, escaping to the undeveloped areas is cheap, and many of them have access to things like beautiful mountains or…

You’re right that being close to amenities is good, but you’re building up a false dichotomy between 1-2 hours from the office[0] and “move to the mountains”. You’re ignoring option C “move close to a smaller city”. Often 1-2 hours from the kinds of cities where major offices are located provide an inferior quality of life compared to a smaller city. 1-2 hours away from my old office is basically Burbank, which is st…

I think a problem with the Boise-sized metro is that it's super hit-or-miss. Places like Boise or Salt Lake City are awesome, but I think those are kind of the outliers. Many smaller, isolated cities struggle with being desirable places to live. Small cities in places like upstate New York, the Deep South, far Northern California, or Eastern Washington are tough to get young people to move to so they often have problems of urban decay.

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That's interesting, I'd generally much rather drive an hour than walk 20-30 minutes. I lived on a college campus for a while where you could walk to everything and I like it much more now driving everywhere.

> I'd generally much rather drive an hour than walk 20-30 minutes Why?!

It depends what you're walking through! I'll walk for hours on a beautiful nature trail or a pretty, safe cityscape with interesting sidewalk-addressing buildings.

I won't walk for 5 minutes sandwiched between a fast road strip-mall parking lots, industrial facilities, or open fields.

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I can think about anything when I drive a car. Walking exercises your muscles, so it's preferable way of transportation because of health, but not because of thinking, IMO.

> I can think about anything when I drive a car. The rest of the world would prefer you to think about driving a car when you drive a car. When you're walking, OTOH, thinking about anything is OK. (The only person you'll kill by doing that unthinkingly is you.) God, Americans are weird.

Thinking consciously and explicitly about a skill like driving (or hitting a tennis ball) is a good way to screw it up. Obviously you have to be aware of your surroundings. But if you're thinking about when or how to press the pedals or how far to turn the steering wheel, you're doing it wrong.

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I'm curious. Why? Amazon pays competitively, and they're the biggest player in online retail and cloud services. Why wouldn't engineers want to work for them?

Because their reputation as an engineering employer is awful?

Their reputation as an employer is as awful as can be. And why would anyone who knows how they treat their warehouse workers -- and who doesn't? -- think they're fundamentally a friend of any employee?

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I replied back to one of these and explained that due to their anti-union actions, and they way they treat employees, I would never be interested in working there, no matter the salary. I thankfully have never received any more of their spam.

To be fair, very few tech companies would hire someone who starts off by expressing their support for unionization. It's certainly a good "unsubscribe" tactic. For example, if you want to get rid of unwanted Linkedin outreach, just put into your title "Go unions!"

God, America is weird.

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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You’re right that being close to amenities is good, but you’re building up a false dichotomy between 1-2 hours from the office[0] and “move to the mountains”. You’re ignoring option C “move close to a smaller city”. Often 1-2 hours from the kinds of cities where major offices are located provide an inferior quality of life compared to a smaller city. 1-2 hours away from my old office is basically Burbank, which is st…

I think a problem with the Boise-sized metro is that it's super hit-or-miss. Places like Boise or Salt Lake City are awesome, but I think those are kind of the outliers. Many smaller, isolated cities struggle with being desirable places to live. Small cities in places like upstate New York, the Deep South, far Northern California, or Eastern Washington are tough to get young people to move to so they often have probl…

Yes, for sure. Which small city you pick matters. But given the nature of remote work, you can just pick and choose which city is right for you.

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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For what it's worth, the Amazon interview experience is modelled that way for fairness. We are pretty much told that we can't deviate too much from the script because by doing so we might advantage a candidate over another. There are exception with more senior employees that tend to disregard that advice but overall it's pretty well followed. Sorry about your bad experience though.

Not complaining about the use of a common script for all interviews. A good script would have many avenues where you can ask the person about his specific resume. I've done a lot of emc/netapp/pure storage as an example, but only xiv from ibm. the way amazon handles this is to not ask a single question about storage, for a storage role. this is the wrong way. well, let me correct myself. for this sr position in stora…

I can tell you that when training interviewers, Amazon makes it very clear that candidate experience is the most important thing about the interview. Stoically asking questions without a wink of emotion certainly does not fit that. :(

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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American programmers are mercenaries, capitalist minded workers, that have access to a digital hive mind that not many other professions can fully access. We hold a lot more power than I think we realize. Europeans work to live. Americas live to work.

Probably worth mentioning that you aren’t safe if you hide out in some low-paying European job. Sooner or later the US/Chinese platform companies are going to come and eat your boss’ lunch So you may as well come over and get a share of the spoils

Easier said than done...

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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May 2020. Yup, inner centre is pretty great for a bike.

He, actually I prefer the outer suburbs for bicycling because downtown is insane . In the suburbs I can tone the paranoia that everyone is out there to kill me at least down a little :)

Well, the suburbs too for sure. I probably meant outer centre, for the thrill of the ride as you mention :).
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