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Post by esond »

mabbo wrote: post #189

I quit Amazon 3 weeks ago after nearly a decade. Work from home was one of the biggest reasons. In my view, the personality traits that are conducive to promotion up the Amazon leadership ladder are strongly aligned with loving work-from-office. Most people L10 and higher not only don't understand the desire for permanent work from home, I think maybe they cannot understand it. It's just too foreign to many of them.…

I was just last week in an interview for a role at Amazon and was told that -- while they would entertain a permanent remote arrangement for the right candidate -- it was the interviewer's honest opinion that being fully remote would hurt my chances to advance in the organization.

I figured, well, at least he was honest with me.

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Post by Tiktaalik »

sgerenser wrote: post #472
Tiktaalik wrote: post #312

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Extra inappropriate when one considers the insanely mad cost of housing in Vancouver.

Back during the HQ2 circus, wasn’t Vancouver the city that tried to pitch themselves to Amazon that “we have talent like Seattle, but our average software engineer pay is much lower!”?

This has always been an advantage of setting up shop in Canada, though ideally this leans more on the "Canadian dollar is cheaper" aspect than the "we simply underpay everyone" aspect.

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Post by mym1990 »

notyourwork wrote: post #498
bryananderson wrote: post #353

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This mindset is mind-boggling to me. BART’s operational reliability is excellent. The new cars are really nice. Trains in the core come often. What exactly makes it “absolutely atrocious public transportation”? Of course it doesn’t serve all destinations, but that’s inevitable because the Bay is mostly suburban sprawl.

Dirty, noisy, unpleasant rider experience. The terminals are sketchy. Try public transportation in other places (europe) for example. Hands down a better experience all around.

I think of course if you compare it against the best transportation systems in the world you're going to come up pretty short with BART(Tokyo for example was AMAZING). I come from Atlanta where MARTA is a pretty big farcry from effective public transportation, so maybe that is why I don't mind BART as much...

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Post by mym1990 »

baby wrote: post #403
bryananderson wrote: post #353

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This mindset is mind-boggling to me. BART’s operational reliability is excellent. The new cars are really nice. Trains in the core come often. What exactly makes it “absolutely atrocious public transportation”? Of course it doesn’t serve all destinations, but that’s inevitable because the Bay is mostly suburban sprawl.

Personally I find it super sketchy so I always avoid it and just uber.

This is valid, especially when there isn't a lot of other riders around and when you start going to some of the worse areas of the Bay(or insert almost any American city).

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Post by baby »

jimmaswell wrote: post #467
vladvasiliu wrote: post #361

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It's not only a question of time, but also of how that time is spent. For example, I would much rather prefer to walk 30-40 minutes instead of taking a crowded, smelly metro for 20. I actually used to regularly walk 50 minutes to get home in the evening because I didn't want to deal with the transit. There's also the fact that this is the time it takes when everything works well. Again, I take an automated line, whic…

That's interesting, I'd generally much rather drive an hour than walk 20-30 minutes. I lived on a college campus for a while where you could walk to everything and I like it much more now driving everywhere.

That's crazy o_O a 20-30 minute walk is like the best commute. I think you're doing your health a disfavor.

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Post by bryananderson »

notyourwork wrote: post #498
bryananderson wrote: post #353

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This mindset is mind-boggling to me. BART’s operational reliability is excellent. The new cars are really nice. Trains in the core come often. What exactly makes it “absolutely atrocious public transportation”? Of course it doesn’t serve all destinations, but that’s inevitable because the Bay is mostly suburban sprawl.

Dirty, noisy, unpleasant rider experience. The terminals are sketchy. Try public transportation in other places (europe) for example. Hands down a better experience all around.

This is a result of America’s and California’s larger ills, especially extreme housing unaffordability (California) and lack of an adequate social safety net (America). Of course these symptoms are lessened or absent in countries that have addressed the core issues—the same is true in other areas besides public transportation. It’s not a BART thing, it’s a society thing.

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Post by baby »

nivenkos wrote: post #438
nelox wrote: post #396

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Many Tier 2/3 cities in Europe do it best in terms of access to great public transportation and an easy going lifestyle.

Pitiful wages though. Like you'd be lucky to get $60k in those places.

yet you get universal healthcare, pension, and a bunch of other stuff which makes life affordable.

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Post by ProZsolt »

Talanes wrote: post #350
vladvasiliu wrote: post #317

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I've never lived in the US, so I can't comment on the commute situation there, but I live and work in Paris proper and one of the main reasons "I don't want to go to the office" is the commute. I need 30-45 minutes to get there, and our public transit system is supposedly good. But the metro's still too crowded, dirty, smelly, etc. And I even usually avoid rush hour and take an automated, hassle-free line. Commuting…

I'm actually wondering what you consider not a long commute if 30 minutes hits the threshold. I've known plenty of people who have longer commutes driving directly from home to work.

For me the ideal commute(pre Covid) was an under 20 mins walk/bike ride. That is still nearly 3.5 hours a week not counting dressing up / getting ready for the commute.

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Post by nivenkos »

baby wrote: post #507
nivenkos wrote: post #438

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Pitiful wages though. Like you'd be lucky to get $60k in those places.

yet you get universal healthcare, pension, and a bunch of other stuff which makes life affordable.

Not really, house prices are insane and income taxes and sales taxes are much higher too.

I wish I had American citizenship tbh.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

ionwake wrote: post #458
mediascreen wrote: post #448

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I live in Stockholm and have a beautiful 20 minute walk to the office. It takes about the same by bus or metro. On the other hand I have an 45m2 apartment, since I would rather have a small place in the center of Stockholm than having a bigger one in the suburbs.

Have you considered moving to another city if so where? I’ve always wanted to work in Stockholm

Do you want to take his apartment?
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