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Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#11

It's very hard to actually comprehend any technically challenging concept without being constantly exposed to it. The more challenging it is, the more time you're going to need so it become something like second nature to you. Take up as many relevant projects as needed to master the underlying theoretic aspects of whatever you're interested in, whether that's in math or programming. Don't get frustrated if you get s…

As I was writing my answer you posted yours, and I found It very very helpful.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#12
I tend not to memorize in that way. Reading gives me a basic familiarity with a topic and, more importantly, helps me understand where to find information when I need it. If I use a piece of technical information regularly, I'll just keep looking it up until exposure fixes it in my memory.

However, if it's something I do need to remember and can't look up, spaced repetition tools like Anki are helpful.

You should probably ask yourself whether it's worth the effort to memorize something that you only need every few months. So long as you have an understanding of the general topic, it's not hard to find technical specifics when you need them. Being able to reel off technical details from memory is a good party trick, but I've rarely found it to be useful in daily life.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#13
No need to memorize everything in this day and age. Memorization is super useful, but if it's not part of your day to day, looking it up when you need it is a more efficient use of time.

To that end, I'd instead recommend taking notes in a system that allows for full text search.

However, if you still want to memorize it, repetition will be your friend. Repeatedly reading the material will gain you familiarization with the concepts, and eventually the memorization. Spaced repetition (Anki et.al.) is the fastest, but simply reading regularly works too.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

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Modafinil. Aside from that, for me, it's more important to memorize where on the page I saw something, and where the book or page was located. Things like web pages may get saved because of their ephemeral quality. It's unrealistic to expect to retain everything, but knowing where to find non-critical knowledge is easier.

This is great when you can access the book. Great for info I don't want in my head. There is a cost to this however. I feel like the brain has a few slots for temporary into. And those slots are also needed for problem solving(holding temporary mental models and theory's to test). It works, and is faster for the learning process, I just feel it's slower an the application side.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

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I have a "trick". My native language is not english. 99.9% of what i read is in english. Comprehension for me is also slow when just reading(at least once).

Memory, as i found out, works if you connect new knowledge to existing knowledge. Usually, when i read and understand something to the point of the "aha" moment is not sufficient. Just understanding something in that moment is not enough for storing in long term memory.

Here is the trick part: when i read and want to comprehend and memorise, i do the following:

  1. Read a paragraph/piece in english
  2. Get to the aha moment by re-reading until it makes a narrative in your head
  3. Once i have the narrative, i translate it to my native language and write it down(pen and paper > keyboard)
It's not fast, but there are many processes involved here that get to long term memory:

  1. first reading - getting the context of the material
  2. getting to the aha moment - means it's connected to something, and the new knowledge somehow filled the gap
  3. when i get to the narrative part, i can make a story and tell it to myself, in my own head "this is because of that etc"
  4. #3 is not sufficient, so i take a step further and process it by translating it - further cementing the "connecting to old knowledge" process
  5. #4 is also not sufficient, as the translation is not always clear when trying to explain it to someone else. here is where the longhand writing comes into play - writing is expressing your thoughts clearly. when this is done, i already went through a lot of phases of processing, that i can say i fully understand something without any rote memorisation: i can just use whatever old knowledge i have to recreate new knowledge and to assemble it based on the listener's (perceived) capabilities of understanding.
I know this works, because i have all the processes written by hand, in a notebook. Everything i explained here is a narrative that i constructed on the spot to explain my process. Keep in mind that this whole process of comprehension, memory, new knowledge and handwriting was new to me ±1 year ago.

Not sure this helps you directly but indirectly it should be able to guide you into figuring out what works best in your context.

  #edit: i still don't know how to format text in a comment

  #edit 2: figured it out

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#16
Take a look at incremental reading -- the big app in this space is supermemo, but there are plugins for Anki (another app) that might make it work. Incremental reading is great because aside from tackling remembering things you've read, it also helps schedule what you're reading, so each day you have a 'session' and then what you read is decided by the program.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#17

I train myself to look things up in the manual quickly. For instance I use four programming languages regularly and sometimes have to use another. Sometimes I forget how I'm supposed to, say, look up the length of an Vector/List/array but it's OK because I can look it up in a few seconds. When I do cardio at the gym I take my tablet and read technical documentation, frequently over and over again. The goal of that is…

Yeah but this is backwards. We're remembering how to remember something instead of just actually remembering the thing.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#19
If I really need to remember something I use spaced repetition, Anki being one of the more well known tools for that. Spaced repetition is particularly useful if you need to retain information indefinitely; you can do so as long as you stick with the process. The downsides to it are the upfront cost of ingesting whatever information you're looking to memorize into what is usually a flash card like system.

Re: Ask HN: How do you memorize things you read?

#20
I don't memorize; I try to learn a skill by applying it in practice on some project, no matter if real or a "toy" one; most of the skill will stick, but the memorization of all the facts facts is rarely relevant - any facts which were not required to apply that skill don't really need to be memorized and can be looked up easily when/if needed.
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