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Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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Re: Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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Companies like Google hold a lot of power over their users.

It's all-or-nothing, and not being part of the Google ecosystem is extremely inconvenient as more and more services depend on it.

Only legislation can give power back to the users. It shouldn't be necessary to put up with this level of surveillance by big corps in order to function in society.

Re: Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dslul.open... OpenBoard is a 100% foss keyboard based on AOSP, with no dependency on Google binaries, that respects your privacy.

Once I realized what samsung was doing I switched to AnySoftKeyboard and I'm pretty happy with it. It's got a lot of options. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.menny.android.anysoftkey...

I've tried both anysoftkeyboard and openboard, and liked openboard layout better but wanted swiftkey like support from anysoftkeyboard. Looking at reddit fossdroid I discovered the one fitted me better as a closer to openboard with swiftkey support : FlorisBoard

Re: Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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> It seems that LineageOS has GApps installed It doesn't come with GApps installed, you need to flash those packages manually. That said, LOS also comes without an app store whereas /e/ has a custom F-Droid-compatible store pre-installed. Combining LineageOS and MicroG is kind of hard (relatively), because LineageOS enforces signature validation, which MicroG needs disabled to properly fake the proper Google APIs. Th…

Can you recommend a couple phones that are compatible with LOS + microg? I looked on their sites and it wasn't quite clear

I've been using the Pixel 4a 5G for about 6 months with MicroG and Lineage. Works really well. Other than Whatsapp and Google Maps I don't miss anything, but those apps have alternatives too.

Re: Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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Last I checked the default keyboard samsung installs on their phones was collecting what you typed and sharing/selling that data with third parties. I try not to store or access any personal information on my cell phones when i can avoid it, but at a certain point, just having one is enough to seriously compromise your privacy. Strong regulation with real sharp teeth is the only thing that can fix this situation.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dslul.open... OpenBoard is a 100% foss keyboard based on AOSP, with no dependency on Google binaries, that respects your privacy.

Thanks for this, just installed it and when I click to enable in my settings, I get an Attention message:

"OpenBoard may be able to collect all the text you type, including personal data such as passwords and credit card numbers"

This appears to be from Samsung, trying to deter users from using keyboards other than their own.

Re: Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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Companies like Google hold a lot of power over their users. It's all-or-nothing, and not being part of the Google ecosystem is extremely inconvenient as more and more services depend on it. Only legislation can give power back to the users. It shouldn't be necessary to put up with this level of surveillance by big corps in order to function in society.

>Only legislation can give power back to the users. It shouldn't be necessary to put up with this level of surveillance by big corps in order to function in society.

Don't worry, after about 7 years there will be a low key class action suit and we'll miss the $7 payout and lawyers will collect the leftover millions for the sake of symbolic justice. Then perhaps big industry won't ever learn it's lesson again.

Congress has already proven that they're the Rip Van Winkle of IT awareness unless it pertains to boosting their personal investments.

Re: Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dslul.open... OpenBoard is a 100% foss keyboard based on AOSP, with no dependency on Google binaries, that respects your privacy.

Thanks for this, just installed it and when I click to enable in my settings, I get an Attention message: "OpenBoard may be able to collect all the text you type, including personal data such as passwords and credit card numbers" This appears to be from Samsung, trying to deter users from using keyboards other than their own.

That's a generic warning that shows up on all flavors of Android, including AOSP and LineageOS, when you enable any new input method.

Re: Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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Once I realized what samsung was doing I switched to AnySoftKeyboard and I'm pretty happy with it. It's got a lot of options. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.menny.android.anysoftkey...

I've tried both anysoftkeyboard and openboard, and liked openboard layout better but wanted swiftkey like support from anysoftkeyboard. Looking at reddit fossdroid I discovered the one fitted me better as a closer to openboard with swiftkey support : FlorisBoard

FlorisBoard is really nice. Among all of the FOSS Android keyboards, I've found the gesture typing on FlorisBoard to be the most accurate.

https://github.com/florisboard/florisboard

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Skimming through the article, they compare a few ROMs from significant phone manufacturers, LineageOS with Google Play, /e/, and Stock Android. It seems that LineageOS has GApps installed and /e/ does not (presumably since they use MicroG?), so it is looking like for LineageOS, it's really Google Play leaking this data.

> It seems that LineageOS has GApps installed It doesn't come with GApps installed, you need to flash those packages manually. That said, LOS also comes without an app store whereas /e/ has a custom F-Droid-compatible store pre-installed. Combining LineageOS and MicroG is kind of hard (relatively), because LineageOS enforces signature validation, which MicroG needs disabled to properly fake the proper Google APIs. Th…

If you're trying to combine LineageOS with microG, the most straightforward solution is "LineageOS for microG" which has everything set up for you:

https://lineage.microg.org

I know of two other Android flavors that have microG integrated. /e/ is one of them and CalyxOS is the other.

Re: Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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> It seems that LineageOS has GApps installed It doesn't come with GApps installed, you need to flash those packages manually. That said, LOS also comes without an app store whereas /e/ has a custom F-Droid-compatible store pre-installed. Combining LineageOS and MicroG is kind of hard (relatively), because LineageOS enforces signature validation, which MicroG needs disabled to properly fake the proper Google APIs. Th…

Can you recommend a couple phones that are compatible with LOS + microg? I looked on their sites and it wasn't quite clear

LineageOS for microG supports all phones that LineageOS does. Here's a spreadsheet of the full list along with the specs of each device:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bx6RvTCEGn5zA06lW_uZ...

If you want a more specific recommendation, could you provide your budget and your requirements?

Re: Android phones are sending significant amount of user data with no opt-out [pdf]

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Last I checked the default keyboard samsung installs on their phones was collecting what you typed and sharing/selling that data with third parties. I try not to store or access any personal information on my cell phones when i can avoid it, but at a certain point, just having one is enough to seriously compromise your privacy. Strong regulation with real sharp teeth is the only thing that can fix this situation.

Hi! I have a Samsung and I looked around online and couldn't find any real info on this topic. I don't doubt it's quite possible, but where is your source from? It's been hard for me to confirm. A good point, though, I'll look at the open source options....
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