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Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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Post by un_montagnard »

mathverse wrote: post #100
sharkweek wrote: post #6

I live in Seattle and thus a notable percentage of my social circle works at Amazon. The folks I know who work there were almost entirely all prepared to quit if the company forced their initial "everyone back in the office" requirement, especially in this current job market. It feels rare to see Amazon ever make a change to such a publicly stated policy like this, I can only imagine that the groundswell of feedback…

It is amazing that some americans can be so picky to give up their many hundred thousand/per year jobs because they dont want to go to the office. I am just envious at how developed your tech scene is.

It is amazing that some Americans are so picky about going to the office instead of actual vacations with all your corporate access disabled.

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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Post by ferdowsi »

zz865 wrote: post #172

Is Amazon really such a bad employer? I've just started process with them now. I dont want to work for Facebook, there is no local Netflix and I'm probably not good enough for Google - Amazon is the only FANG company I'm realistically going to get.

Maybe you should back up and ask why you are limiting your search to those four/five companies?

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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Post by whatshisface »

bluedino wrote: post #134
1270018080 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With stack ranking, many engineers blacklisting Amazon, and the sheer size of their engineering department, they must be close to literally running out of engineers to hire in America, right? At least if they stuck to in person work and limited their hiring pool geographically.

They can hire new grads every year Getting expensive to move to Seattle though

Running a giant company with nothing but new grads is really asking for every project management problem ever discovered.

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Post by vineyardmike »

zz865 wrote: post #172

Is Amazon really such a bad employer? I've just started process with them now. I dont want to work for Facebook, there is no local Netflix and I'm probably not good enough for Google - Amazon is the only FANG company I'm realistically going to get.

They're not that bad, uniformly. But they have a vocal cohort of people that had a bad experience. From what i see in my cicle, its not rare to have a bad experience, but its not uniformly bad. But often bad. It seems heavily dependent on manager and the team's combo of priority and funding and history of good/bad development (aka tech debt).

They have some good cultural points (easy to change teams) but also bad ones (bad on-call). So depending on your tolerance of WLB vs salary, and how good you are at shipping, you could have a good experience.

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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Post by jnwatson »

zz865 wrote: post #172

Is Amazon really such a bad employer? I've just started process with them now. I dont want to work for Facebook, there is no local Netflix and I'm probably not good enough for Google - Amazon is the only FANG company I'm realistically going to get.

This is only a single data point, but I recently went through the whole interview cycle with Google, Facebook, and, Amazon, and I thought Amazon was the toughest interviews.

I have friends that work at Amazon. It seems that work/life balance varies quite a bit among different parts of it.

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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Post by zz865 »

ferdowsi wrote: post #173
zz865 wrote: post #172

Is Amazon really such a bad employer? I've just started process with them now. I dont want to work for Facebook, there is no local Netflix and I'm probably not good enough for Google - Amazon is the only FANG company I'm realistically going to get.

Maybe you should back up and ask why you are limiting your search to those four/five companies?

No other companies pay >250k in NYC.

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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Post by anonporridge »

zz865 wrote: post #172

Is Amazon really such a bad employer? I've just started process with them now. I dont want to work for Facebook, there is no local Netflix and I'm probably not good enough for Google - Amazon is the only FANG company I'm realistically going to get.

If you're good enough for Facebook, Amazon, or Netflix, you're plenty good enough for Google.

Google of today isn't the same as that of a decade ago. It's just another megacorp.

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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Post by jnwatson »

zz865 wrote: post #177
ferdowsi wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you should back up and ask why you are limiting your search to those four/five companies?

No other companies pay >250k in NYC.

That’s not true. What about fintech?

Re: Amazon will allow many employees to work remotely indefinitely

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Post by smileysteve »

jon-wood wrote: post #22
KallDrexx wrote: post #2

From the blog post > At this stage, we want most of our people close enough to their core team that they can easily travel to the office for a meeting within a day’s notice. We also know that many people have found the ability to work remotely from a different location for a few weeks at a time inspiring and reenergizing. We want to support this flexibility and will continue to offer those corporate employees, who ca…

How disorganised does a team need to be that they need to call meetings so involved they can only be done in-person with less than 24 hour’s notice? This isn’t a genuine business requirement, it’s just management wanting to remind everyone that they’re on a leash which can be yanked whenever they like.

The question this raises to me, is what travel times is this accounting for?

There are more complex issues (taxes, school pickup, dog walking, local errands) before travel in a plane and rental car can't get you somewhere in 24 hours.

Pre pandemic some nycers had a 15 minute walking commute, others might grind it out for 2 hours each way in the northeastern corridor.

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