I am a big hater of canned tuna and my vegetarian wife once bought the plant-based tuna from Nestle. It's a disaster, it's as stinky as the real one. I hated the smell as much as the real one. So they did nail it. Therefore I see their egg and shrimps as a big opportunity. Honestly, I could never understand why vegetarian products can't reproduce the meaty flavors better. There are so many chips and junk-food products with fake smells who taste closer to the real thing than most replacement products, while being vegetarian or even vegan.
Nestlé to Debut Plant-Based Eggs, Shrimp
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#42I remember when margarine, and other plant based fats were being touted as the healthier alternative to animal fats, and in the end, it turned out that these artificially oxidized plant oils ended up being a direct cause of heart disease. I'm afraid of products such as these for the same reason, because we have no long term health data. I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fa…
Nature is very kind and provides enough food to survive even without meat. I personally avoid all these ultra processed plant based products targeted to vegetarians/vegans and favor classic veggies/fruits
Don't forget that in the game of capitalism companies are in a never ending quest to develop new products, this simply is the next iteration. Just like cigarettes and alcohol were marketed as medicine, these things will be marketed as climate change or animal cruelty solutions
I don't believe that food, like many other industries, needs to be disrupted. I'll stick to veggies and fruit, pasta, bread, local stuff if possible &c. all the basics we've been eating for hundreds of years, processed food is poison, plant based or not
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#43I have one question... Why?
https://ipbes.net/sites/default/files/2020-02/ipbes_global_a...
Page 28:
>Globally, land-use change is the direct driver with the largest relative impact on terrestrial and freshwater ecosystems, while direct exploitation of fish and seafood has the largest relative impact in the oceans (well established) (Figure SPM.2) {2.2.6.2}.
>Over one third of the world’s land surface and nearly three-quarters of available freshwater resources are devoted to crop or livestock production {2.1.11}. Crop production occurs on some 12 per cent of total ice-free land. Grazing occurs on about 25 per cent of total ice-free lands and approximately 70 per cent of drylands {2.1.11}. Approximately 25 per cent of the globe’s greenhouse gas emissions come from land clearing, crop production and fertilization, with animal-based food contributing 75 per cent of that.
Background on IPBES https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Science-Poli...:
>The Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES) is an intergovernmental organization established to improve the interface between science and policy on issues of biodiversity and ecosystem services.[1] It is intended to serve a similar role to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.[2]
Re: Nestlé to Debut Plant-Based Eggs, Shrimp
#44What's next? Plant based vodka?
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#45I have one question... Why?
When Nestlé’s involved the answer to that question is always money.
I won’t be surprised if they start convincing some third world counties that meat is bad and to eat their products making bank while causing widespread malnourishment in the process. It would not be the first time.
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#46Its hard for me to understand exactly how the term "plant-based" came to be an acceptably descriptive name for a category of food. Is it so hard to just put the name of the plants in the name of the food? I think most people would be skeptical of going to a bar and ordering something off the menu that was simply called "Animal-based Wings."
If they listed the shit they put in them nobody would eat them.
Same thing with hot dog sausages or chicken nuggets, when you've seen the factory videos they're puke inducing
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
A quick search readily brings up multiple articles about margarine and heart disease. Women who eat four or more teaspoons of margarine a day have a 50 percent greater risk of developing heart disease than women who eat margarine only once a month http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/05/us/study-links-heart-disea... Margarine intake and subsequent coronary heart disease in ... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9229205 Butter…
From the Harvard Health link: > From the standpoint of heart disease, butter remains on the list of foods to use sparingly mostly because it is high in saturated fat. [--] Some of the newer margarines that are low in saturated fat, high in unsaturated fat, and free of trans fats are fine as long as you don't use too much (they are still rich in calories).
I would say the jury is still out on newer margarines. Give it a few years before drawing conclusions. Our understanding of food chemistry is still in its infancy and we routinely overturn things that have been "common knowledge" in this area.
Plus it doesn't have any bearing on the detail that such articles can be readily found with a quick search, so there's no need to ask the OP to cite their sources.
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#48I remember when margarine, and other plant based fats were being touted as the healthier alternative to animal fats, and in the end, it turned out that these artificially oxidized plant oils ended up being a direct cause of heart disease. I'm afraid of products such as these for the same reason, because we have no long term health data. I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fa…
Good point. Another issue I take with these substitutes are the amount of ingredients used to make the fake counterparts. Whilst a burger is most meat, a “veggie burger” contains dozens of highly processed ones.
There's three classes of veggies burgers to me: the old fake patties, such as Boca burger; the newer, less pretentious patties full of recognizable veggies; and the latest, ultra-processed fake meat, such as Impossible and Beyond. The second class, the ones not afraid to show they're just beans, grains, and veggies shaped like a disk, are the most appealing to me. They're also the most versatile.
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#49I am a big hater of canned tuna and my vegetarian wife once bought the plant-based tuna from Nestle. It's a disaster, it's as stinky as the real one. I hated the smell as much as the real one. So they did nail it. Therefore I see their egg and shrimps as a big opportunity. Honestly, I could never understand why vegetarian products can't reproduce the meaty flavors better. There are so many chips and junk-food product…
A big part of meaty flavor is the tasty animal fat. I find a lot of veggie products just taste like vegetable oil mostly, not too appetizing and makes you feel pretty gross after a meal.
I wish there wasn't such a focus on making (and failing) meat flavor. I know vegetarians who don't even like eating the beyond burgers because it tastes a little bit too meaty for them, and obviously it doesn't taste meaty enough to get people to stave off meat en masse, so I don't know who that product is for. I wish we would lean into existing cuisine that doesn't use meat, like falafel, which is my favorite vegetarian food by far.
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#50I remember when margarine, and other plant based fats were being touted as the healthier alternative to animal fats, and in the end, it turned out that these artificially oxidized plant oils ended up being a direct cause of heart disease. I'm afraid of products such as these for the same reason, because we have no long term health data. I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fa…
Good point. Another issue I take with these substitutes are the amount of ingredients used to make the fake counterparts. Whilst a burger is most meat, a “veggie burger” contains dozens of highly processed ones.
What's wrong with having lots of ingredients?