What kind of deranged person messes with GPS risking to crash an airplane?
I think it’s for military protection. I had a flight canceled due to GPS jamming. I think it was to protect a U2 flight. Putin also flies around with GPS jammers.
FAA Fumbled Its Response to a Surge in GPS Jamming
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#12What kind of deranged person messes with GPS risking to crash an airplane?
From the article: "The Pentagon uses its more remote military bases, many in the American West, to test how its forces operate under GPS denial."
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Makes sense. They don't seem to select for social responsibility.
> The complaints accused the FAA of denying controllers permission to ask the military to cut short GPS tests adversely affecting commercial and private aircraft. The issue according to the article is with the FAA, not the military
I would expect the FAA to select FOR social responsibility. In the military, sociopathy is sometimes an asset. At the FAA it is inevitably a liability.
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#15What kind of deranged person messes with GPS risking to crash an airplane?
Governments messing with other governments?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the article: "The Pentagon uses its more remote military bases, many in the American West, to test how its forces operate under GPS denial."
Wouldn't it just make sense to tell them not to use GPS?
That's like saying just pretend the internet is down. The goal is to find unanticipated uses.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the article: "The Pentagon uses its more remote military bases, many in the American West, to test how its forces operate under GPS denial."
Wouldn't it just make sense to tell them not to use GPS?
That wouldn't test the software, assuming cheating wasn't an issue
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#18Are there NOTAMs regarding GPS jamming operations? It's not a fix, but maybe it would allow pilots - specially ones without sophisticated avionics like those founds in airliners(who don't rely on GPS in flight) - to prepare and/or avoid the issue.
Yes, for example:
10/034 (A0480/21) - NAV GPS (WSMRNM GPS 21-18) (INCLUDING WAAS, GBAS, AND
ADS-B) MAY NOT BE AVBL WI A 445NM RADIUS CENTERED AT 334005N1063216W (ONM148043) FL400-UNL,
399NM RADIUS AT FL250,
329NM RADIUS AT 10000FT,
329NM RADIUS AT 4000FT AGL,
275NM RADIUS AT 50FT AGL.
DLY 0600-1159. 13 OCT 06:00 2021 UNTIL 17 OCT 11:59 2021.
CREATED: 08 OCT 20:45 2021
Re: FAA Fumbled Its Response to a Surge in GPS Jamming
#19Can someone more familiar with the situation explain why they jam GPS at all?
You'd think the vast industry around the military could replace actual jamming with training aids. Even if the bespoke training tools are expensive, I doubt they're as expensive as an airliner wandering in to an active missile range. Not to mention the economic disruption to air traffic throughput.
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#20What kind of deranged person messes with GPS risking to crash an airplane?
I shall consult the expert team at 4chan /s But seriously "We've been told we can't ask to stop jamming, and to just put everyone on headings." ... people inbound not ready for this can run out of fuel. Maybe the right passive aggressive response could have been to simply set a really large diameter TFR to keep civilian aircraft away assuming people check NOTAMs.
simply set a really large diameter
I'm not particularly familiar with aviation, so is the radius in this comment (445NM at FL400) considered large? (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28833002)