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Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label nuclear energy as green

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Re: Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label nuclear energy as green

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Post by linuxhansl »

Good. Due do skewed and unreasonable public opinion it is currently almost impossible to start new nuclear power projects. As a result instead of modern, safe (passive cooling, etc) nuclear plants we're running 30-40 year old, unsafe old timers!

Thorium pellet reactors, et al, are promising technologies for safe and local power generation.

I believe the right answer is a mix of (safe) nuclear, renewables, together with energy storage such as pump hydro storage, can solve our energy needs. Then again, I'm a lay person in this area.

Re: Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label nuclear energy as green

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Post by BitwiseFool »

account4mypc wrote: post #5
pensatoio wrote: post #2

Great news. Let’s make it happen. Discussions about “green” energy that don’t involve nuclear are hypocritical at best and ignorant at worst.

I think this is the right attitude. Even if you don't want to use nuclear power, it obviously warrants serious attention.

I saw a photo of an entire hillside covered with solar panels and it was being touted as some green energy achievement. But then I realized that those solar panels have smothered the habitat and that the actual energy output of that solar panel array is very low compared to its footprint - not to mention all the resources that went into producing all those panels. It seems obvious to me that the best possible solution is Nuclear Energy.

Re: Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label nuclear energy as green

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Post by wumpus »

account4mypc wrote: post #5
pensatoio wrote: post #2

Great news. Let’s make it happen. Discussions about “green” energy that don’t involve nuclear are hypocritical at best and ignorant at worst.

I think this is the right attitude. Even if you don't want to use nuclear power, it obviously warrants serious attention.

Using words like "ignorant" and "hypocritical" shows an attitude problem.

Re: Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label nuclear energy as green

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Post by foepys »

xvilka wrote: post #6

Given the Germany stupid move to get rid of nuclear (in favor of coal[1], as it turned out), not sure if it will support this decision. And nowadays they are dependent from one country's gas... [1] https://www.wired.com/story/germany-rejected-nuclear-power-a...

France imports a lot of gas generated power from Germany over the course of the year. Without Germany's readily available gas turbines, France wouldn't be able to stabilize their net. Same the other way around where Germany relies on France's almost always available nuclear power.

Re: Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label nuclear energy as green

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Post by mszyndel »

linuxhansl wrote: post #11

Good. Due do skewed and unreasonable public opinion it is currently almost impossible to start new nuclear power projects. As a result instead of modern, safe (passive cooling, etc) nuclear plants we're running 30-40 year old, unsafe old timers! Thorium pellet reactors, et al, are promising technologies for safe and local power generation. I believe the right answer is a mix of (safe) nuclear, renewables, together wi…

Worth adding that in EU this is largely German public opinion. And somehow the tail wags the dog.

Re: Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label nuclear energy as green

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Post by emj »

egberts1 wrote: post #4

A good start, given that nth generation nuclear power plant is nearly meltdown proof.

There is a Swedish sketch about probability and Nuclear power, it's written by a master of the form so the translation will not live up to the original. Still I do believe it reflects what experience tells us about "nearly bulletproof" in regards to fission.

http://wootest.net/likelihood.html

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