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Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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That's very interesting. The tuning for a violin is always (afaik) to make the open strings a perfect 3/2 fifth apart, but then of course you can play to whatever tuning you want. (If you have the skill to do that - I certainly don't!) That makes tuning a guitar a much more complex thing in principle, with choices and trade-offs to be made, so maybe that's a better explanation for the prevalence of tuners.

I say "always" (for the violin), but that has problems itself. Eg. If you're playing with an equal temperament (eg piano) accompaniment your open G will not match it and there's no other way to play that note. Presumably advanced violinists have to choose their own tradeoffs, but I was always taught to hear the fifth and would always be aiming for a just fifth (tuning an equal tempered fifth by ear would be a neat tr…

On the cello (and viola) three perfect 3:2 ("pythagorian") fifths down from the A string makes for a low C that's noticeably flat when compared to equal-tempered instruments. For string quartet playing, it's manageable, because the violins will adjust when necessary, but for piano-accompanied playing, cellists will raise the low C a little so it doesn't clash with the C's on the piano.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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You are dissing a product that you didn't pay money for, and comparing it unfavorably to one that you did. How is that fair. There are metronome and tuner apps that are way more pleasant and functional than any hardware product, if you could shell out just a few bucks (< $10). You also have fewer batteries to manage.

Just searching for tuner apps, in the first 10 or so results there were no options for me without ads or without "upgrade to pro" or "subscribe to us" or "3 days trial". The first three had an ad-free option around 10-15 dollars to unlock, which is fair but the price of a good hardware tuner that will certainly last WAY longer than any of those apps and will operate 10x better. The first one without the subscription…

Answering the sibling post that is now dead:

Considering the option I went for is buying a proper product with proper warranty, operates 100x better and whose manufacturer spent WAY more R&D than all those shitty small apps, I fail to see how I am the entitled one.

Also, my current tuner is Polyphonic (TC Polytune). I bet a couple of the 30 or so apps I saw might be too, but how the fuck should I know? There's nothing in descriptions. I'd rather spent the time getting some proper device than cruising trough shitty products that want to show me ads.

Also, my Polytune doesn't charge me extra for tuning a Ukulele. Unlike some of the apps in the store.

The only "entitled" people here are those SaaSholes flooding the market with copycat shitty apps.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Yeah, the Snark is good, I usually use that with my acoustic guitars. I also use a Polytune 3 which is the first thing in my signal chain for electric or bass. I've never had good results with tuning apps on my phone. Usually because of background noise - which is where the Snark shines, working through vibration!

I like my Snark, but I'm a bit troubled by the instructions saying not to leave it on any instrument with a polyurethane finish, which I think is most guitars. Not sure how much I should worry about that.

Funny, I have a similar tuner that is permanently attached to both poly and (significantly more fragile) nitro guitars, and never saw anything of the sort happen.

Also I thought poly was virtually indestructible, those guitars never age...

If you want something permanent, I can recommend a D'addario. They can attach to the tuner screw and won't be in conctact with the wood.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Not a downvoter, but I find this line of argument to be very poorly thought out. Why shouldn't google be able to paste ads for its products on certain searches? Why shouldn't amazon be able to do the same with product searches? Why shouldn't apple be able to build feature X into the OS that's currently a category of app? It's literally their product! We can't possibly have a conversation about "regulating algorithms"…

> Why shouldn't google be able to paste ads for its products on certain searches? Because their monopoly in search business is an illegal advantage for the other business they are promoting. (Not my words - taken from [0]). I guess it ends up being what one thinks of one business v/s others. For me, content search should be a different business from content creation. App bundling is another area where I side with un-…

So an EU commission thinks google should not be allowed to show you results from their specialized product search at the top of a results page when it thinks you're comparison shopping because rival comparison shop services can't do that? Because:

there would be a risk that a company once dominant in one market (even if this resulted from competition on the merits) would be able to use this market power to cement/further expand its dominance, or leverage it into separate markets

I mean -- yes. This is how many/most businesses grow. They leverage their existing dominance in one market to fund their entry into the next. Lather, rinse, repeat. I don't have a problem with that at all.

Is there kind of a slippery slope fear here? That if a business takes this to the extreme that they will swallow up all the other companies and then consumers will have no choice but to subject themselves to the abuse of this one company that has no incentive to treat their customers well?

Maybe that could happen, but we've never been close to that in the western world as far as I can tell. Until we get there, can we hold off on yanking the "government" ripcord? It seems to me whenever we've done that in the past, it's almost always lead to entrenchment of a particular business and not to more competition.

Also, have you taken a look at other comparison shopping sites? I mean, google shopping is far from great, but these other sites are just downright awful. Perhaps they should spend more time on bettering their product and less time schmoozing EU bureaucrats. And if they didn't do that, then certainly those EU bureaucrats have some more important issues to focus on that actually matter to the citizens they serve than inventing imagined "crimes of monopoly" that have zero victims.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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you know what would also be great: less content-generated spam (top 10 ways to feel happy... blah bla) stop allowing sites to fool the 'sort by date feature' by changing the dates of old articles to new ones

pretty much why I add "reddit" to most of my searches, and when I don't, I'm reminded why I do.
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