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Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
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Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
OP is dissing one app, but making a generalised comment on all software apps in the tuner/metronome category. There is no shortage of well done apps that cost very little (most of them cheaper than the cheapest korg tuner) and packing in way more functionality. If OP's comment was something to the tune (heh) of "I tried a bunch of paid top-rated apps and I prefer my hardware tuner", I'd consider it a fair comparison.
I read it as dissing all free/crap/adware. Which is like dissing TV adverts or billboards or, I dunno, stickers on racing cars. So, cough up for Netflix, or move to an area where people have expended effort to make sure billboards are not permitted, or, I dunno, go watch the ponies. It’s all out there, just got to pay one of the prices. If you don’t want ads, you pay, or pick up one of dozens of perfectly serviceable…
I guess I'm in the opposite camp. I have a drawer of clip-on tuners which broke or ran out of battery which is hard to change or just weren't easy to use or reliable. A sturdy boss tuner somewhere in my drawer of cables that's pain to pull out. And two apps that are on all my devices, easily always accessible at home or friend's, and can tune my guitar my bass and my kids ukulele. I wish I preferred the hardware unit, I do - but the convenience factor of the app is too high. I am not spammed with adware but I assume I paid for them at some point - I get value so I gave them money. My expectation of free apps are exactly what price would suggest. We have a choice between ad supported and paid product. Put your money where your mouth - or rather righteous blogs and comments are.
Edit: google "best tuner apps" and the two I use are consistently at the top. If those aren't in the top 30 of your appstore search, then we have a discoverablity problem, not a free or ad supported software problem. And again, if you picked random tuner from Amazon instead of going to store or reading reviews your experience might be the same. So - let's focus on what true issue / rage is, and compare apples to apples :)
Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
#143I believe it's a bit of a disservice. People should develop a musical ear to tune their own instruments. Haven't been using tuners for about past five years. However my guitar does drift off a bit sometimes
agree with you but you cant tune onstage/ with other instruments also tuning. the guitarist can't go "everybody shut up I'm tuning" like in the orchestra. and I believe in concert bands/ orchestras they also tune with equipments before going on stage
Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
I read it as dissing all free/crap/adware. Which is like dissing TV adverts or billboards or, I dunno, stickers on racing cars. So, cough up for Netflix, or move to an area where people have expended effort to make sure billboards are not permitted, or, I dunno, go watch the ponies. It’s all out there, just got to pay one of the prices. If you don’t want ads, you pay, or pick up one of dozens of perfectly serviceable…
> If you don’t want ads You block them.
Except you can't. At least not easily, and that's just for now.
Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a non-guitarist but one-time musician, why are guitar tuners needed? Other stringed instruments seem to not need them, and I never thought to ask. (Obviously you might need an absolute reference if you don't have absolute pitch)
With guitar you are much more likely to have to re-tune during a performance. I can think of a couple of reasons. Steel core strings (on guitar) have a much higher coefficient of thermal expansion than gut-core strings (on orchestra instruments). If you start a concert at dusk your guitar will go quite a bit sharp if you have a cool breeze blowing across the stage after the sun sets. Some of the playing styles requir…
Actually gut strings are horribly unstable, but are virtually obsolete, having been supplanted by steel and synthetic cores. But orchestral musicians have learned to discreetly tune when they notice that their instrument has drifted out of tune. But like you say, being able to hear yourself helps. The same instruments in a quieter setting are often tuned by ear.
Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
#146I believe it's a bit of a disservice. People should develop a musical ear to tune their own instruments. Haven't been using tuners for about past five years. However my guitar does drift off a bit sometimes
Can anybody learn it? I thought many people were just tone deaf. Is it a myth?
Tuning off of a reference note isn't that hard, almost anyone can learn to do it. It's just more convenient to use the tuner for each string.
Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How is that fair. They chose not to charge money for it. They chose to ruin it with annoying ads nobody wants to see. It is absolutely fair.
OP is dissing one app, but making a generalised comment on all software apps in the tuner/metronome category. There is no shortage of well done apps that cost very little (most of them cheaper than the cheapest korg tuner) and packing in way more functionality. If OP's comment was something to the tune (heh) of "I tried a bunch of paid top-rated apps and I prefer my hardware tuner", I'd consider it a fair comparison.
> There is no shortage of well done apps that cost very little (most of them cheaper than the cheapest korg tuner) and packing in way more functionality.
Name three.
The problem with app stores (both Google's and Apple's) is that it's impossible to find those good quality apps for commodity needs, in the sea of advertisement/IAP-backed garbage.
Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
#148Why is it that all I hear is “give Google access to your microphone”?
Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
OP is dissing one app, but making a generalised comment on all software apps in the tuner/metronome category. There is no shortage of well done apps that cost very little (most of them cheaper than the cheapest korg tuner) and packing in way more functionality. If OP's comment was something to the tune (heh) of "I tried a bunch of paid top-rated apps and I prefer my hardware tuner", I'd consider it a fair comparison.
I read it as dissing all free/crap/adware. Which is like dissing TV adverts or billboards or, I dunno, stickers on racing cars. So, cough up for Netflix, or move to an area where people have expended effort to make sure billboards are not permitted, or, I dunno, go watch the ponies. It’s all out there, just got to pay one of the prices. If you don’t want ads, you pay, or pick up one of dozens of perfectly serviceable…
> Which is like dissing TV adverts or billboards or, I dunno, stickers on racing cars.
Absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing any of that. Paying for TV channels yet being forced to see ads is an indignity. Billboards and all other forms of advertising are nothing but visual pollution, cities that have banned them are nicer. Stickers on racing cars are also visual pollution.
Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
OP is dissing one app, but making a generalised comment on all software apps in the tuner/metronome category. There is no shortage of well done apps that cost very little (most of them cheaper than the cheapest korg tuner) and packing in way more functionality. If OP's comment was something to the tune (heh) of "I tried a bunch of paid top-rated apps and I prefer my hardware tuner", I'd consider it a fair comparison.
> There is no shortage of well done apps that cost very little (most of them cheaper than the cheapest korg tuner) and packing in way more functionality. Name three. The problem with app stores (both Google's and Apple's) is that it's impossible to find those good quality apps for commodity needs, in the sea of advertisement/IAP-backed garbage.
Right! 5 minutes per app to evaluate. And no assurance the "good" one won't change.
The free one from Fender is not terrible - but still behaves like crapware.