Credit-card firms are becoming reluctant regulators of the web

Post by jstanley » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 11:46 AM UTC

spottybanana wrote: post #100

matheusmoreira wrote: post #19

What do you mean, "are becoming"? They have always been. If the payment processors don't want to be associated with a service, they'll refuse to handle payments and then there's simply no way for the service providers to get paid. See wikileaks and other "problematic" sites. Advertisers are also regulators. I've seen sites start heavily censoring themselves because someone complained to Google and they pulled the ads…

> I've seen sites start heavily censoring themselves because someone complained to Google and they pulled the ads. Stuff like this ruins the web. You mean my web is ruined because I don't see more those ads selling the newest crypto ponzi scheme which promises 10000% yearly returns? Let's deal with it, if advertising was totally uncensored that would be a nightmare for average user.

Post by koheripbal » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 11:56 AM UTC

kmfrk wrote: post #31

More than ten years ago since Visa, Mastercard etc blocked access to WikiLeaks: https://wikileaks.org/Banking-Blockade.html . I guess they started blocking things The Economist care about.

Post by caoilte » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 12:13 PM UTC

shapefrog wrote: post #67

busymom0 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every single time there’s a HN discussion about censorship and I comment about how we shouldn’t be okay with censorship of anyone regardless of how offensive they might be or whether or not it’s some private corporation and usually it gets downvoted. When the wind starts blowing the opposite direction, only then do people wake up.

So you demand freedom for all ... except those that are using their freedom in the way you dont like. For the avoidence of doubt, I am talking about the freedom to not have someone in your house / your company platform.

Post by lotsofpulp » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 12:27 PM UTC

White_Wolf wrote: post #36

matheusmoreira wrote: post #19

What do you mean, "are becoming"? They have always been. If the payment processors don't want to be associated with a service, they'll refuse to handle payments and then there's simply no way for the service providers to get paid. See wikileaks and other "problematic" sites. Advertisers are also regulators. I've seen sites start heavily censoring themselves because someone complained to Google and they pulled the ads…

In a world where cash is starting to dissapear, payment processors and banking in general should be regulated and treated just like some sort of utility company (Ex: Water, electricity). Advertising is a different beast altogether. Being able to to exchanges (money for goods, etc) is something quite a basic right(If I can call it that). That doesn't apply to making money though. I don't think it's normal in any way t…

Post by thriftwy » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 12:47 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #106

thriftwy wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Travel is what enabled CC payments over the net. Airline/train tickets and hotel accomodations and internet payments are a match.

Why would online retail not also be a match? I assume there is are many more online retail transactions than travel related transactions simply because people shop retail more than they travel.