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Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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This is only “a failure” if the loss from this is worse than all of the money they have saved over the years by running so lean. This type of event is the obvious possible downside that is well known when you structure a company this way. It’s not that events like this aren’t expected, it’s that prepping for them costs more than the loss from not being able to absorb them.

Operating a business is a lot like flying an airline in one respect: It's not your average hight above the zero point that matters so much as never, ever going below it. Failure to maintain altitude above ground level and failure to maintain solvency are in many ways equivalent. Both domains involve taking risks, but with severe consequences when either risks are miscalculated or ground truths change. Financial bets…

Wouldn't the relevant analogy be operating income?

It's usually not a problem for a business to incur a short term operating loss.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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And people wonder why Boeing made such an effort to not need different pilot training for the MAX.

I wondered always why people wondered. Airbus went to great length to make cross-certification of pilots possible for that very reason.

Nobody is wondering anything. Advantages are obvious. They were wondering why you’d prioritize that over the aircraft’s ability to stay in the air.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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The rapid test isn't very accurate especially in the absence of a full blown infection. The annual cost of doing a PCR test twice a week to ensure you always have an actually accurate test within 72 hours of working would be around $15,600. This is about 43% of the gross individual median income. For practical purposes employers can't afford to pay near 50% more for the least reasonable employees, the government isn'…

The rapid antigen test is considerably less accurate than a PCR test if the goal is individual medical treatment, but if the goal is public health, it's potentially more effective. Michael Mina makes the case for this persuasively in a recent UCSF Grand Rounds[1]. These tests could be made available at scale and cheaply, as is the case in many European countries, but we have chosen not to do that. This is a mistake w…

> as is the case in many European countries

Correction, as was the case in many European countries. Freely available tests in e.g. Germany ended today, as the cost of a vaccine shot is cheaper than that of a rapid test while tests need to be repeated every 24h.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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> our operation has become brittle and subject to massive failures under the slightest pressure I somehow notice a lot of this lately, in many different areas. I wonder if there isn't a common cause behind those. Is it just covid or something bigger?

The root cause is because "anti price gouging" laws are being enforced. Previously, if there was a shortage of say plane brake discs, the wholesaler would jack the price up 10x for the last 3 sets. That would lead to one of the 4 customers who wanted to buy them to say "nah, it's too expensive, we don't need it that badly". The person who wouldn't get a set was probably the guy restocking the spare parts shelf, while…

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Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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It's just a baseless rumor as far as I can see. SW says there's a staffing problem at "one location in florida," and blames weather otherwise. Meanwhile at least the SW pilot's union says "our pilots are not participating in any official or unofficial job actions." Union goes on to say the disruption is because of SW's "bad management." Given that the people who are ostensibly striking have yet to say anything, I thi…

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Senator Cruz did in fact tweet this: https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1447327311095910402

The informational content of that tweet, or if you regard it as more than mere uninteresting noise, is an entirely different and more subjective matter.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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There's a cutthroat competition between the airlines so how can we be surprised that they have to "optimise" everything until fuckups like this start to happen? Consumers who are looking for someone to blame for this, should look in the mirror: those people who pick the cheapest picket at Expedia just by "sort by cheapest first", are the main culprits. Airline industry is in the pathetic state it is due to irrational…

Southwest has famously never exposed their APIs to third party travel agencies of any kind. You cannot book SWA on Expedia or any other OTA — only on southwest.com

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Comment from the Southwest Pilots Union... >SWA has claimed that the immediate causes of this weekend’s meltdown were staffing at Jacksonville Center and weather in the southeast U.S., but what was a minor temporary event for other carriers devastated Southwest Airlines because our operation has become brittle and subject to massive failures under the slightest pressure. Our operation and our frontline employees have…

> our operation has become brittle and subject to massive failures under the slightest pressure I somehow notice a lot of this lately, in many different areas. I wonder if there isn't a common cause behind those. Is it just covid or something bigger?

> Is it just covid or something bigger?

Vaccine mandates. All the staff have walked off the job rather than be jabbed.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Comment from the Southwest Pilots Union... >SWA has claimed that the immediate causes of this weekend’s meltdown were staffing at Jacksonville Center and weather in the southeast U.S., but what was a minor temporary event for other carriers devastated Southwest Airlines because our operation has become brittle and subject to massive failures under the slightest pressure. Our operation and our frontline employees have…

Maybe there is something between the lines, but it really does not say much other than the obvious "our operations are worse than other carriers".

Im skeptical of a statement from the Union in this case. They may have ulterior motives to releasing a statement like this.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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According to this substack[1], it was a pilot walkout/"sickout" due to vaccine mandates. It's actually happening in more companies/industries than widely reported. I imagine it's also picked up steam since last weeks revelation from leaked internal Pfizer emails[2] that they used cells from aborted fetuses while testing the RDNA vaccine (testing - it's not in the vaccine), but have publicly stated otherwise. It was a…

It's telling that this is downvoted, even though it presents actual evidence from an actual SWA employee vs the random speculation found elsewhere in the thread. The cause isn't leanness or MBAs, its pilots protesting against vaccine mandates, by the testimony of an actual pilot who works there.

That is because it goes agaist the narrative that the only people that oppose mandates are backwater rednecks that have no education.

It can not be that high skilled professionals oppose having their body autonomy revoked... it can not be that "my body my choice" should extend to more medical choices than 1...

no no. this can not be allowed

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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>It's a non-peer-reviewed discussion of some graphs from Our World In Data. A discussion published in the European Journal of Epidemiology. It doesn't just look at those two countries; its statistical analysis covers 68 countries and 2947 US counties. You don't think that if the vaccine were effective at preventing spread, there should be at least some evidence of this effect when comparing vaccination rate and sprea…

The discussion completely ignores basically all the potential confounding factors. Two huge ones are lockdown measures and level of testing. Even in a largely vaccinated population, if you do widespread community testing you will find a lot of asymptomatic cases. If you don't do widespread community testing you won't. So you can have wildly different caseloads in two highly-vaccinated populations, yet no meaningful m…

> since, as we know, vaccination is an effective prevention against serious illness and death

Could you please share a meaningful study that comes to this conclusion and does not ignore all potential confounding factors? (I don't mean it in a confrontational way; I'm genuinely curious since I only managed to find heavily confounded data)

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