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My wife used to name her RPG characters “Isis” after a cat we used to have. Used to have to explain to vets that we named her Isis years before Bush and Cheney created Isis by starting their illegitimate war in Iraq.
The Iraq War began in 2003.
Bush's administration ended in 2009.
ISIS gained power in 2014, 5 years into Obama's administration.
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People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…
So "get over it" is your solution? Sounds like you've never been a victim. Place yourself in someone else's shoes please. I mean I don't like the (self) censorship either and don't mind rude or mature words, since we're all mature here and calling a fucking asshole a f*ing a$$h0le is an insult to people's intellect.
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In my help desk days I took a call from an irate person ranting about how we were telling her to "get a male sex change". Eventually I figured out she had become upset with "msexchange" showing up in the address!
Before Stack Overflow there was Experts Exchange. Their URL was of course those two words, all lowercase and mashed together into one... (Can't recall if they later inserted an underscore in between them?)
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> Uhura : But why should I object to that term, sir? You see, in our century, we've learned not to fear words.
Yeah, that only shows how stupid the original Star Trek often was. Just because they hadn't yet had a Trump or a Hitler in Uhura's century is no reason for her not to know that "words" are exactly what scum like that rises to the top on.
But I think that was Roddenberry's point: we can only advance after excising that primitive baggage.
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3. The words you use for this are trans and cis. No one is going to get upset at someone for using them. If you are trying to use "creative" language to say the same thing you shouldn't be surprised when people take offense, considering that non-offensive terms already exist.
The word the most rabid "PC warriors" use for this are "man " and "woman". If you dare say "Trans women are different from other women in that...", you can bet there's some looney who will jump down your throat along the lines of "How dare you call this woman anything else but just 'a woman', you horrible bigot!" If you didn't understand that this was what the GP meant you must have led an exceedingly sheltered onlin…
But cool story bro. Fight for your right to be a dick I guess.
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That's a slightly different problem from the Scunthorpe problem. You have a customer who gives her name as "Fanny Batter". Is that a permissible name? What about "Juan Kerr"? Or "Amanda Huggenkiss"? It's not about replacing "ass" with "butt", but detecting rudeness/humour in context. I'd be amazed if machine learning can solve this one. It's extremely hard for humans. * all those names should be rejected btw
> * all those names should be rejected btw No they shouldn't.
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> * all those names should be rejected btw No they shouldn't.
If you don't want someone going to the press and creating some "human interest" story about how they got a loyalty card with a stupid name, then your algorithm should at least question them.
And if not, then just tell the press: "They typed in the stupid name, so they got it on their card. How is that our fault? Now go write about some real news in stead of this lazy sensationalism."
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The word the most rabid "PC warriors" use for this are "man " and "woman". If you dare say "Trans women are different from other women in that...", you can bet there's some looney who will jump down your throat along the lines of "How dare you call this woman anything else but just 'a woman', you horrible bigot!" If you didn't understand that this was what the GP meant you must have led an exceedingly sheltered onlin…
This hypothetical situation with the looney you made up is not very fleshed out. The looney seem to be referring to an individual woman that is somehow out of frame in the story and judging by the looneys remarks, the person who now is talking about trans women in general seem to have made previous remarks about the individual that was insensitive to that individuals desires to be referred to as a woman and not a tra…
>>> [@dehugger:] 3. The words you use for this are trans and cis. No one is going to get upset at someone for using them.
>> [Me:] The word the most rabid "PC warriors" use for this are "man" and "woman". If you dare say "Trans women are different from other women in that...", you can bet there's some looney who will jump down your throat [...]
> This hypothetical situation with the looney you made up is not very fleshed out.
Fleshed out enough for anyone reasonably intelligent to get the gist, I would have thought. What, exactly, did you not understand?
> The looney seem to be referring to an individual woman that is somehow out of frame in the story
What "story" -- my hypothetical? Since "the looney" is prominently mentioned in it, how can they be "out of frame"?!?
> and judging by the looneys remarks, the person who now is talking about trans women in general seem to have made previous remarks about the individual
No, absolutely not. Where on Earth did you get that from? My hypothetical was talking about trans women in general, period. There's no need to make up any complicated backstory, because what I said was all I wanted and needed to say: If you dare say, in a general discussion on the Internet, e.g, "Trans women are different from other women in that...", you can bet there's some looney who will jump down your throat BECAUSE you used the term "trans women"; to some people that, too, is anathema because it "singles out" trans women from other women. Some people are so blinded by PC that to them, acknowledging any difference is a sin.
> that was insensitive to that individuals desires to be referred to as a woman and not a trans woman. Which is kind of a dick move...
Yeah, in your weird made-up story that has nothing to do with anything. You are of course perfectly free to make up little fairy tales and publish them on the Internet, but not to impute them as back-stories to anything I (or anyone else) has said. Don't put your shit in my mouth.
> But cool story bro. Fight for your right to be a dick I guess.
If anyone is "being a dick" here, AFAICS it's you.