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Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

#51

Post by rglullis »

titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

F-droid shows at least a dozen different apps, none of them with ads. Even if the open source apps were not a perfect fit for your case, you could have taken 10% of the money you spent and made everyone's life better.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

#52

Post by titzer »

rglullis wrote: post #51
titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

F-droid shows at least a dozen different apps, none of them with ads. Even if the open source apps were not a perfect fit for your case, you could have taken 10% of the money you spent and made everyone's life better.

Clip-on tuners are just far superior. They use a piezo and are driven by vibration, which works in a noisy environment, like a stage. I probably would not have bought one if that crappy phone app had not pissed me off so much. Thanks crappy phone app!

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

#53

Post by stephen_g »

titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

Yeah, the Snark is good, I usually use that with my acoustic guitars. I also use a Polytune 3 which is the first thing in my signal chain for electric or bass.

I've never had good results with tuning apps on my phone. Usually because of background noise - which is where the Snark shines, working through vibration!

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

#54

Post by tarunm »

dnissley wrote: post #43
tarunm wrote: post #19

Isn't this another blatant case of Google abusing its position of being the gate-keeper of internet and pushing its feature above the websites that exists with the same feature for years? Same as it has been doing for things like online calculators, weather sites, currency conversions and so on. Worse is that they don't have to really play by the rules of SEO. Any other website with tuners or weather forecasts have t…

Not a downvoter, but I find this line of argument to be very poorly thought out. Why shouldn't google be able to paste ads for its products on certain searches? Why shouldn't amazon be able to do the same with product searches? Why shouldn't apple be able to build feature X into the OS that's currently a category of app? It's literally their product! We can't possibly have a conversation about "regulating algorithms"…

> Why shouldn't google be able to paste ads for its products on certain searches?

Because their monopoly in search business is an illegal advantage for the other business they are promoting. (Not my words - taken from [0]). I guess it ends up being what one thinks of one business v/s others. For me, content search should be a different business from content creation.

App bundling is another area where I side with un-bundling, something Google have had issues as well[1]

I have no intention of trying to have a conversation regarding "regulating algorithms" and such, just that Google should compete fairly with other content creation and keep search business separate from others.

[0] https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/MEMO_1... [1] https://www.npr.org/2021/09/27/1040889789/google-eu-android-...

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

#56

Post by anitil »

titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

As a non-guitarist but one-time musician, why are guitar tuners needed? Other stringed instruments seem to not need them, and I never thought to ask.

(Obviously you might need an absolute reference if you don't have absolute pitch)

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

#57

Post by epse »

anitil wrote: post #56
titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

As a non-guitarist but one-time musician, why are guitar tuners needed? Other stringed instruments seem to not need them, and I never thought to ask. (Obviously you might need an absolute reference if you don't have absolute pitch)

All string instruments need regular tuning, but with things like violin, more emphasis is put during lessons on being able to tune your instrument fully off of hearing a single reference pitch

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by dehrmann »

stephen_g wrote: post #53
titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

Yeah, the Snark is good, I usually use that with my acoustic guitars. I also use a Polytune 3 which is the first thing in my signal chain for electric or bass. I've never had good results with tuning apps on my phone. Usually because of background noise - which is where the Snark shines, working through vibration!

Second on the Snark because it uses vibrations. It'll tune an unplugged electric guitar.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

#59

Post by dehrmann »

anitil wrote: post #56
titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

As a non-guitarist but one-time musician, why are guitar tuners needed? Other stringed instruments seem to not need them, and I never thought to ask. (Obviously you might need an absolute reference if you don't have absolute pitch)

Piano tuning cost something like $100+.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

#60

Post by djaychela »

rglullis wrote: post #51
titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

F-droid shows at least a dozen different apps, none of them with ads. Even if the open source apps were not a perfect fit for your case, you could have taken 10% of the money you spent and made everyone's life better.

For me, no app would take the place of a clip on tuner. I play bass, and mostly (pandemic aside) live. Dedicated hardware is the way to go, and with this I can even tune mid-song if needed.
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