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Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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That's disruption, in the sense intended by Clayton M. Christensen. Walmart was never going to provide a better service than Whole Foods (or some equivalent-to-WF store that predates Walmart, since I'm sure there are some). But it might provide a service that's 80% as good, at 20% of the price. And if it does, you might buy it. Are you under the impression that it's no longer possible to install a dedicated guitar-tu…

OK but, is Google really trying to disrupt the guitar tuner market? This isn't them trying to disrupt an incumbent. It's a neat hack from a company with more money than they know what to do with.

The top result on the Play store for "Guitar Tuner" is GuitarTuna, which is around 200 MB in size if memory serves me well. The second result's reviews indicate that it's full of extremely disruptive ads.

So whatever Google is trying to do, for me it has disrupted that "market" by providing an easy-to-find, clean alternative.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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That's disruption, in the sense intended by Clayton M. Christensen. Walmart was never going to provide a better service than Whole Foods (or some equivalent-to-WF store that predates Walmart, since I'm sure there are some). But it might provide a service that's 80% as good, at 20% of the price. And if it does, you might buy it. Are you under the impression that it's no longer possible to install a dedicated guitar-tu…

OK but, is Google really trying to disrupt the guitar tuner market? This isn't them trying to disrupt an incumbent. It's a neat hack from a company with more money than they know what to do with.

No, but they want permission to use your microphone.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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If you look for a tuner app in the Android app store, there are like thousands of choices. Most of them are adware, or they don't register my double bass very well. I would have no idea where to begin looking for an app that is better in some way, or that even works. That market has pretty much disrupted itself. Fortunately I learned to tune by ear, so a tuner app is really a first world problem.

With on-line music sessions now spanning the globe, and only a small minority of people able to achieve perfect absolute pitch, standard pitch is the lingua franca of internet music, and should be widely useful.

What is standard pitch?

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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OK but, is Google really trying to disrupt the guitar tuner market? This isn't them trying to disrupt an incumbent. It's a neat hack from a company with more money than they know what to do with.

The top result on the Play store for "Guitar Tuner" is GuitarTuna, which is around 200 MB in size if memory serves me well. The second result's reviews indicate that it's full of extremely disruptive ads. So whatever Google is trying to do, for me it has disrupted that "market" by providing an easy-to-find, clean alternative.

I've been using Guitar Tuna for years. It's extremely effective and I don't really notice the ads.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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I know this is a bit of a tangent, but I'm getting tired of having everything good replaced by a mediocre version that offers debatable convenience. A meh guitar tuner, a phone tree that usually understands my spoken choices, the opportunity to enter my claim information online and be questioned by an impersonal overseas operator later instead of just talking with my agent — none of these are developments that improv…

I imagine this is just some Google engineer's 20% project, and that they are really enthusiastic about guitars. Also I can see this being useful in many cases, in case my battery was flat and I had to borrow someone's phone to tune up. I don't think that musicians will stop buying tuner apps because Google has one, a good tuner app is indispensable.

Most musicians probably are using a clip on or chromatic tuner rather than their phone to be fair

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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To the downvoters: I would love to hear your counter argument and change my view.

The argument right now would likely be that it doesn't show up in the google search for "guitar tuner" and needs "google guitar tuner" to be found coupled with an assumption that this is how it will always be. It's a fair enough argument. But they should make it in response not just downvote like so many google employees not wishing to engage with a discussion about abuse of market power at all. I think I tend more t…

OP does have a point but I think a better example is when google scrapes a truncated paragraph from a website and presents that.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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That's disruption, in the sense intended by Clayton M. Christensen. Walmart was never going to provide a better service than Whole Foods (or some equivalent-to-WF store that predates Walmart, since I'm sure there are some). But it might provide a service that's 80% as good, at 20% of the price. And if it does, you might buy it. Are you under the impression that it's no longer possible to install a dedicated guitar-tu…

If you look for a tuner app in the Android app store, there are like thousands of choices. Most of them are adware, or they don't register my double bass very well. I would have no idea where to begin looking for an app that is better in some way, or that even works. That market has pretty much disrupted itself. Fortunately I learned to tune by ear, so a tuner app is really a first world problem.

Guitar Tuna is an excellent app with minimal distractions, simple and intuitive ui, and lets you calibrate, which can be invaluable. Tunes down to A1 with excellent bass presets. There are ads in the free version, and removing them / unlocking extras costs $12.99 .

Best way to filter apps I've found is to look for three things: domain appropriate pricing, high numbers of good (believable) reviews, and a lifetime greater than 12 months.

Very few crapware apps have all three at once - it also helps to ask relevant communities on enthusiast forums when it comes to craft - I've found great bubble level recommendations from a woodworking forum. Going to Twitter or social media comes in third, it's tough to get a good signal noise ratio from the hordes.

Eventually ai might be able to curate for quality, but having multiple social proxies can help in the meantime.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Isn't this another blatant case of Google abusing its position of being the gate-keeper of internet and pushing its feature above the websites that exists with the same feature for years? Same as it has been doing for things like online calculators, weather sites, currency conversions and so on. Worse is that they don't have to really play by the rules of SEO. Any other website with tuners or weather forecasts have t…

To the downvoters: I would love to hear your counter argument and change my view.

You're assuming the downvotes are due to a difference of views, and not because your writing style hasn't found its home yet. It's not that most people disagree with the substance of your commentary - there's a comment with similar argument but with a different tone as yours, currently trending on this post - but that your writing has a natural resonance with the downvote button, similar to singing the perfect note to break a wine glass with sound.
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