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Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Wouldn’t a widespread coordinated protest be extremely easy to verify?

To the contrary, the southwest pilots union (SWAPA) is explicitly saying these delays are not caused by vaccine protests, despite their continued opposition to the mandate.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/graisondangor/2021/10/10/southw...

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Do you remember where you read that? Really curious! Love me some drama.

Don't need to read too far into it as none of the other US based airlines didn't have any weather or FAA related issues over the weekend.

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Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you remember where you read that? Really curious! Love me some drama.

It's just a baseless rumor as far as I can see. SW says there's a staffing problem at "one location in florida," and blames weather otherwise. Meanwhile at least the SW pilot's union says "our pilots are not participating in any official or unofficial job actions." Union goes on to say the disruption is because of SW's "bad management." Given that the people who are ostensibly striking have yet to say anything, I thi…

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Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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The explanation of "weather and an FAA shutdown" doesn't make sense given that, according to the article, other airlines aren't experiencing this at all.

Oh, and for folks talking about a pilot protest against vaccine mandates, that theory is discussed at length toward the end of the article.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you remember where you read that? Really curious! Love me some drama.

It's just a baseless rumor as far as I can see. SW says there's a staffing problem at "one location in florida," and blames weather otherwise. Meanwhile at least the SW pilot's union says "our pilots are not participating in any official or unofficial job actions." Union goes on to say the disruption is because of SW's "bad management." Given that the people who are ostensibly striking have yet to say anything, I thi…

Someone reported on reddit that...

> Pilots had to sleep at the airport because all the hotels were full. Since they weren't staying in beds or whatever, it didn't count as "crew rest" so all the crews were illegal.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ATC/comments/q5a7hq/southwest_airli...

No idea if it's true or not though, and/or if that's the actual reason.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you remember where you read that? Really curious! Love me some drama.

Don't need to read too far into it as none of the other US based airlines didn't have any weather or FAA related issues over the weekend.

Wrong. They're all having similar issues. Flights cancelled constantly. It's a mess.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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I don't know what else it would be given the current timing. POTUS went in front of everyone bragging how mandates worked and used airlines as an example. Obviously people will be against promoting this if true. We'll see I guess.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Seeing stories like this makes me wonder if we'll ever see a company actually go bust based purely on the instability of its decades-old, duct-taped architecture.

I have a relative who works for a large credit card processor running on mainframe systems and I hear over and over again that they're all retiring and unable to fill the newly opened roles. This problem is compounded by the fact that their offshore contracting firms are cutting back on providing COBOL resources because there's a lot more money in supplying java/.net/etc. devs. The work culture there sounds so unsustainable and yet they're one of the largest payment processors in the country. If they were have widespread stability issues like this, things could get interesting.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a baseless rumor as far as I can see. SW says there's a staffing problem at "one location in florida," and blames weather otherwise. Meanwhile at least the SW pilot's union says "our pilots are not participating in any official or unofficial job actions." Union goes on to say the disruption is because of SW's "bad management." Given that the people who are ostensibly striking have yet to say anything, I thi…

Someone reported on reddit that... > Pilots had to sleep at the airport because all the hotels were full. Since they weren't staying in beds or whatever, it didn't count as "crew rest" so all the crews were illegal. https://old.reddit.com/r/ATC/comments/q5a7hq/southwest_airli... No idea if it's true or not though, and/or if that's the actual reason.

Whether that particular story is true or not, or whether it explains all of the cancellations, there is a kernel of truth in it.

> "The ones [cancellations] that showed up on Saturday they said were because of crew hours," said Stewart, noting airline flight crews are mandated to rest after so many hours on duty.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2021/10/10/flights-c...

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