Based on other recent events, any foreign power interested in secret submarine specifications should just create a "World of Subs" game.
Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
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Re: Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
#12$10,000? Really? It always shocks me how cheap people are. You would think that if any actual adversary wanted information they believed would be helpful in replicating or attacking a nuclear submarine, the price tag they would be willing to pay would be much higher. The guy and his wife are both idiots and they are undoubtedly facing severe consequences. Let’s all hope they never had the opportunity to have children…
BBC version of the story says $100,000. Not sure which is right but $100k sounds more plausible. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58863678
$100k still sounds ridiculously low if it’s at all valuable info. I would be thinking millions given it probably took billions in r&d to create it.
Re: Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
#13Any thoughts on why the court paperwork only refer to the supposed foreign government as being 'COUNTRY1'? https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1440946/downl...
In the end COUNTRY1 was the United States government. They were selling secrets to the FBI and it went about as well as could be expected.
Re: Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
#14Based on other recent events, any foreign power interested in secret submarine specifications should just create a "World of Subs" game.
Not a multiplayer game, but... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Waters_(video_game)
Re: Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
#15$10,000? Really? It always shocks me how cheap people are. You would think that if any actual adversary wanted information they believed would be helpful in replicating or attacking a nuclear submarine, the price tag they would be willing to pay would be much higher. The guy and his wife are both idiots and they are undoubtedly facing severe consequences. Let’s all hope they never had the opportunity to have children…
He asked for 100000$ for the first drop in order to start a relationship. 10000$ first and then 20000$ is what the FBI gave him for proof he had what he said he had. Amusingly he was aware that these amounts were in line with baits used by the FBI and comments on it.
Re: Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
#16Any thoughts on why the court paperwork only refer to the supposed foreign government as being 'COUNTRY1'? https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1440946/downl...
Because they don’t want to say CHINA
It seems unlikely. Reading the court paperwork it seems the FBI knew this was happening because COUNTRY1 told them.
Re: Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
#17$10,000? Really? It always shocks me how cheap people are. You would think that if any actual adversary wanted information they believed would be helpful in replicating or attacking a nuclear submarine, the price tag they would be willing to pay would be much higher. The guy and his wife are both idiots and they are undoubtedly facing severe consequences. Let’s all hope they never had the opportunity to have children…
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Re: Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they don’t want to say CHINA
It seems unlikely. Reading the court paperwork it seems the FBI knew this was happening because COUNTRY1 told them.
There were many cases during the cold war of Russia turning in Americans who approached them with secrets, and probably vice versa.
There is too much of a risk that it is a counterintelligence operation to pass false information or uncover how they run their assets. A good source of intelligence is someone who is compromised (sex, debt, relatives overseas who can be threatened, etc) and can be blackmailed but smart and competent otherwise. Some idiot who walks into a foreign embassy saying they want to sell secrets will last about a week.
Re: Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
#19$10,000? Really? It always shocks me how cheap people are. You would think that if any actual adversary wanted information they believed would be helpful in replicating or attacking a nuclear submarine, the price tag they would be willing to pay would be much higher. The guy and his wife are both idiots and they are undoubtedly facing severe consequences. Let’s all hope they never had the opportunity to have children…
He asked for $5,000,000 in total. You're focused on the initial amounts when he was like "give me a little cash and I'll give you a few pages from my 10,000 pages of stuff".
Re: Navy nuclear engineer and wife arrested for trying to sell submarine secrets
#20$10,000? Really? It always shocks me how cheap people are. You would think that if any actual adversary wanted information they believed would be helpful in replicating or attacking a nuclear submarine, the price tag they would be willing to pay would be much higher. The guy and his wife are both idiots and they are undoubtedly facing severe consequences. Let’s all hope they never had the opportunity to have children…
BBC version of the story says $100,000. Not sure which is right but $100k sounds more plausible. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58863678
$100k is what they gave him in total, $5MM is what they promised him. The delta is because he was selling the papers bit by bit in return for partial payment.