Localstack – Local AWS Emulator

Post by jcims » Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 11:24 PM UTC

kortilla wrote: post #61

IceWreck wrote: post #13

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But AWS is huge. They employ thousands of engineers. Granted most of the complexity is due to its huge huge scale, but still it has too many features to do what youre asking. And then there are AWS exclusives like DynamoDB. Yes there are open source public/private cloud alternatives like OpenStack but they won't solve the problem of lock in and you'd still have to change all your tooling.

> they won't solve the problem of lock in Conflating lock in to an open source tool with lock in to a vendor who you literally have to keep paying money to survive is a shitty tactic used by companies like Amazon. Using open stack absolutely solves the problem of lock in from a business perspective. You can’t be cancelled, the price can’t be changed, etc.

Post by aladeen514 » Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 11:31 PM UTC

thdxr wrote: post #86

It's impressive what Localstack has been able to do to keep up with AWS. However for my own projects, we consider local development like this an anti-pattern. IaC tools like Terraform/CDK/SST make it easy to spin up environments for each developer in the cloud. This may sound crazy at first but would recommend giving it a shot. If you're fully taking advantage of managed AWS services the best development environment…

Post by no_wizard » Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 11:47 PM UTC

simonh wrote: post #28

shiftpgdn wrote: post #6

I’ve been saying for a couple of years whoever builds a tool to one click deploy an AWS alike to run on local bare metal has built the next billion dollar a year company. I know of a lot of big shops that are desperate to get out of the cloud due to 7-8 figure AWS bills but their software and engineering is too tightly wound into AWS tooling.

I worked on a system called Quartz at Bank of America. It wasn't an AWS clone, but was targeting the same flexibility for the development and deployment of applications on 'programmable' infrastructure. The team that built it had done similar projects before at J. P. Morgan and Goldmans. It was a set of infrastructure and services all accessed through Python APIs, with YAML config, all stored in a single distributed…

Post by grepfru_it » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 12:13 AM UTC

BoorishBears wrote: post #91

kortilla wrote: post #72

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> I legitimately wonder how many people feel free from lock in after they finish paying $75k to Canonical for a 12 node OpenStack "private cloud build" Here’s the part where it’s not lock-in. We stopped paying for support from Redhat when we got big enough that our own SRE expertise to run our own open stack cloud. You know what the impact was on our applications running on it? Absolutely nothing. How much do you pay…

> to think that an IaaS platform must cost something in payments per month to some tech company. It does not. I agree fully! As you explained, it can cost several full time employees and their payrolls and their HR and their management! Edit: And before someone misses the point, I'm not saying the math never makes sense for in-house, but to me the inexperienced take is thinking either approach should obsolete the oth…

Post by TonyCoffman » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 12:22 AM UTC

shiftpgdn wrote: post #6

I’ve been saying for a couple of years whoever builds a tool to one click deploy an AWS alike to run on local bare metal has built the next billion dollar a year company. I know of a lot of big shops that are desperate to get out of the cloud due to 7-8 figure AWS bills but their software and engineering is too tightly wound into AWS tooling.