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Re: Waterfox Browser

#31
I use Waterfox and Waterfox Classic, along five other browsers, on a 2008 iMac.

Waterfox is stable and workable for me. I use Vimium-FF for keyboard things.

My use case: I only visit a few sites, including this one, and rarely click the article links here.

I really like it, it is like a Firefox which has been through obedience school, and now knows how to behave itself.

Definitely in my top-10 favorite post-2015 browsers.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#32
post #15

Several things make me skeptical about this browser. 1) Homepage is a bit uncared for. The Copyright shows "2020" at the bottom, the top screenshot looks doctored rather than being a real screenshot. 2) It's owned by an ad marketing platform, System1, as noted in the FAQ. On the plus side, the Github repository is active.

What's wrong with 2020? Generally the year displayed with a copyright is the year the work was first published. For a website, 2020 is a pretty recent initial publish. People don't just fully rewrite their website every year.

I would think it's whenever the page content was last updated, rather than first published.

I also think it's silly to put on your website, but I am not a lawyer and don't know if it has any actual purpose.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#33
post #9

Is this related to Firefox? The name suggests it, but the page doesn't say

Its big thing originally was being a 64-bit port of Firefox. I assume it's still based on Firefox in some way, based on the name, but not really sure what it brings to the table anymore, besides some minor stuff you can already get with extensions.

> besides some minor stuff you can already get with extensions

Waterfox supports extensions that are no longer supported by Firefox.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#34
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with 2020? Generally the year displayed with a copyright is the year the work was first published. For a website, 2020 is a pretty recent initial publish. People don't just fully rewrite their website every year.

I would think it's whenever the page content was last updated, rather than first published. I also think it's silly to put on your website, but I am not a lawyer and don't know if it has any actual purpose.

Why would you change the copyright forward. A copyright 1994 means "This content exists since 1994, if you copied after that, there is proof I have made this before you"

Re: Waterfox Browser

#36
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would think it's whenever the page content was last updated, rather than first published. I also think it's silly to put on your website, but I am not a lawyer and don't know if it has any actual purpose.

Why would you change the copyright forward. A copyright 1994 means "This content exists since 1994, if you copied after that, there is proof I have made this before you"

That's not what copyright is for or how copyright works.

Copyright renewal is a real thing. Copyright years generally get refreshed whenever the content changes.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#37
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They added it unannounced in the last update, Firefox 93. There was a small outrage on behalf of the dozens of people still paying attention to Firefox, but nothing came of it. If you're on a good distribution, you'll probably see it disabled by default.

Honestly I have been disappointed beyond the capacity for outrage with Firefox. Do you know of any positive cases of a distribution that disables this? Edit: just to add to this, my understanding is that Mozilla uses (abuses?) their trademark on Firefox to keep the distributions in line. If you distribute a version of Firefox that's been patched to remove anti-features, you can't call it Firefox.

Arch Linux seems to have disabled it. Both the config flags are false for me and I haven't touched that.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#38
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They added it unannounced in the last update, Firefox 93. There was a small outrage on behalf of the dozens of people still paying attention to Firefox, but nothing came of it. If you're on a good distribution, you'll probably see it disabled by default.

Honestly I have been disappointed beyond the capacity for outrage with Firefox. Do you know of any positive cases of a distribution that disables this? Edit: just to add to this, my understanding is that Mozilla uses (abuses?) their trademark on Firefox to keep the distributions in line. If you distribute a version of Firefox that's been patched to remove anti-features, you can't call it Firefox.

I've never seen ads in the address bar and when I checked the about:config for those two items they were both false. I installed it from the Pop OS! repository.

It isn't a patch to Firefox just configuration.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#39

Several things make me skeptical about this browser. 1) Homepage is a bit uncared for. The Copyright shows "2020" at the bottom, the top screenshot looks doctored rather than being a real screenshot. 2) It's owned by an ad marketing platform, System1, as noted in the FAQ. On the plus side, the Github repository is active.

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Re: Waterfox Browser

#40
"No telemetry / We don't need to know what you do within your browser."

OK, good.

"Limited Data Collection / We try and take the bare minimum amount of information to keep things running smoothly. "

Wait, what? So which is it?

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