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Re: Waterfox Browser

#11

Has Waterfox gotten its act together? Last I checked on it it had a reputation of being slow and unstable,and its users were mostly people who needed XUL support. Of course those same people said it didn't have much life left in it but it's obviously still here.

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Re: Waterfox Browser

#12
post #7

Not much information on the home page on why to use this and not Firefox. As this is derivative of Firefox, then what does it add over Firefox?

It doesn't ship ads in your web browser, unlike Firefox. It allows you to install WebExtensions from any source (even if you don't sign them with Mozilla!), unlike Firefox. I wouldn't recommend it, but that's just because I wouldn't recommend any web browser right now.

>It doesn't ship ads in your web browser

Well, Waterfox is owned by an advertising company.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#13
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't ship ads in your web browser, unlike Firefox. It allows you to install WebExtensions from any source (even if you don't sign them with Mozilla!), unlike Firefox. I wouldn't recommend it, but that's just because I wouldn't recommend any web browser right now.

>It doesn't ship ads in your web browser Well, Waterfox is owned by an advertising company.

Sure, and I'm not saying it's good for privacy. But Firefox in its default setting is also bordering unusable, inserting ads in the address bar!

It's incredible that an advertising company does better than a for-profit owned by a non-profit in this regard.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#14
post #7

Not much information on the home page on why to use this and not Firefox. As this is derivative of Firefox, then what does it add over Firefox?

Here's a bit more information, though i do believe that there indeed could be more clarity about the project's goals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfox

It appears that Waterfox is one of the few ways to use the legacy extensions that Firefox removed the support for and to use a browser that Mozilla doesn't have control over.

I'd maybe also look at GNU IceCat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat

It's actually curious to see a discussion about a fork of Firefox, since a little bit ago i personally felt that there might just be a rise of more forks and attempts to abandon Mozilla due to their recent behaviour: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28785896

Re: Waterfox Browser

#15

Several things make me skeptical about this browser. 1) Homepage is a bit uncared for. The Copyright shows "2020" at the bottom, the top screenshot looks doctored rather than being a real screenshot. 2) It's owned by an ad marketing platform, System1, as noted in the FAQ. On the plus side, the Github repository is active.

What's wrong with 2020? Generally the year displayed with a copyright is the year the work was first published. For a website, 2020 is a pretty recent initial publish. People don't just fully rewrite their website every year.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#16
Previous discussions:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20047170

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15800634

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10554083

And the one on acquisition by System1:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22338321

It's my choice for "sandbox" browser - as in doing all stuff that I wouldn't want to do on Vivaldi.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#17

Has Waterfox gotten its act together? Last I checked on it it had a reputation of being slow and unstable,and its users were mostly people who needed XUL support. Of course those same people said it didn't have much life left in it but it's obviously still here.

I tried it out, and it's very fast on some websites, but freezes the tab for a few seconds when trying to display others. A bit later (in 15 minutes or so) it completely froze the system toward the end of watching a video leaving the audio buffer to repeat. This is the first time my current Linux laptop has crashed since I got it over half a year ago, so I think it's not a great result for the browser.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#18

Has Waterfox gotten its act together? Last I checked on it it had a reputation of being slow and unstable,and its users were mostly people who needed XUL support. Of course those same people said it didn't have much life left in it but it's obviously still here.

> Last I checked on it it had a reputation of being slow and unstable,and its users were mostly people who needed XUL support.

In my testing with it, I found it to be very fast, and a little unstable but the XUL support was a big plus.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#19

Has Waterfox gotten its act together? Last I checked on it it had a reputation of being slow and unstable,and its users were mostly people who needed XUL support. Of course those same people said it didn't have much life left in it but it's obviously still here.

I tried it out, and it's very fast on some websites, but freezes the tab for a few seconds when trying to display others. A bit later (in 15 minutes or so) it completely froze the system toward the end of watching a video leaving the audio buffer to repeat. This is the first time my current Linux laptop has crashed since I got it over half a year ago, so I think it's not a great result for the browser.

> I tried it out, and it's very fast on some websites, but freezes the tab for a few seconds when trying to display others. A bit later (in 15 minutes or so) it completely froze the system toward the end of watching a video leaving the audio buffer to repeat. This is the first time my current Linux laptop has crashed since I got it over half a year ago, so I think it's not a great result for the browser.

This is very similar to the behavior I saw "random freezes during page load/render" on a different OS.

Overall, it was very fast on my system, except for this specific slowdown activity.

Re: Waterfox Browser

#20
post #7

Not much information on the home page on why to use this and not Firefox. As this is derivative of Firefox, then what does it add over Firefox?

It had earlier 64bit builds, but that was then and … now it seems mostly for the niche that are pissed off at the new Firefox tabs and the audacity that Mozilla wants to partner directly with advertisers instead of having Google be the middleman.

Firefox also has some telemetry which Waterfox cuts out.

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