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It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by cannaceo »

SECProto wrote: post #152
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A large organic hass avocado is between $2 and $4. You need at least half of one to make good avocado toast. If the loaf of bread cost you $5, and makes 20 slices, that's a base cost of $2.25.

Those prices seem overly dramatic. Avocados (certainly not native to the "few acres of snow" that is Canada) is 5 for ~$6 at the moment. Bread is sometimes $4 for a crunchy loaf I like, or maybe $1 in flour when I make my own. I don't eat avocado toast, but it costs a lot less than what most people spend on decent coffee in a morning.

I'm currently paying $4/avocado at the farmer's market. Grocery store has them at $3. Los Angeles.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by cblconfederate »

There was a marked shift many years ago. SV seems to have recruited too many people, so inevitably the discussion shifts to the average worker. It's all about management now, so obscure hacking content will not be upvoted. It has also become too 'corporate' , focused on big tech and funding, and not the indie heroes. The comments have become more personal, in line with the me-culture of the time.

This is of course a subjective view coming from my observations that I often learn new management/marketing terms that i shouldn't be learning, being constantly perplexed by the career ladders mentioned, and learning about tools that are useless to anyone but google.

Also don't forget the constant shilling about various paid services that are the second coming of christ until the next second coming.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by dotancohen »

jiggawatts wrote: post #46

Something I noticed about Slashdot was that it started out talking about the latest processors, software, and Linux kernel patches. Then the conversation ever-so-slowly started drifting towards CEOs, the sharemarket, politics, and the like. It's a side-effect of an aging user base. Young people get excited about New Things! With big numbers! Older people get bored of the latest technological advancements and instead…

I think that the old adage is very apt:

The commoners talk about people. The learned talk about things. The wise talk about ideas.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by dotancohen »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #89
jiggawatts wrote: post #46

Something I noticed about Slashdot was that it started out talking about the latest processors, software, and Linux kernel patches. Then the conversation ever-so-slowly started drifting towards CEOs, the sharemarket, politics, and the like. It's a side-effect of an aging user base. Young people get excited about New Things! With big numbers! Older people get bored of the latest technological advancements and instead…

Older people learn that, even if you have zero interest in politics, politics will still be done to you. And older people learn that they often don't like how that works out, and therefore conclude that they'd better start paying at least some attention to politics, whether they want to or not.

  > Older people learn that, even if you have zero
  > interest in politics, politics will still be done to you.
This was the big take away from the first few chapters of Mein Kampf. The author implores the common man to become involved in, or at least aware of, the politics in his country because if he does not then the politicians will abuse him.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by tomhoward »

cblconfederate wrote: post #174

There was a marked shift many years ago. SV seems to have recruited too many people, so inevitably the discussion shifts to the average worker. It's all about management now, so obscure hacking content will not be upvoted. It has also become too 'corporate' , focused on big tech and funding, and not the indie heroes. The comments have become more personal, in line with the me-culture of the time. This is of course a…

This doesn’t really align with the reality. HN’s audience is not heavily concentrated in Silicon Vally or the U.S. - less than 10% of the audience is based around Silicon Valley [1]. Most discussion about Silicon Valley companies, individuals and culture is critical and negative.

At any time there are multiple articles about “obscure hacking” topics on the front page. Right now there are 10, by my count - though others may count fewer of course. But when I talk to hacker types about HN, they always comment on the cool obscure articles they find here.

All the content can’t always by obscure, can it? Surely if everything is obscure, nothing is.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26916747

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

SECProto wrote: post #152
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A large organic hass avocado is between $2 and $4. You need at least half of one to make good avocado toast. If the loaf of bread cost you $5, and makes 20 slices, that's a base cost of $2.25.

Those prices seem overly dramatic. Avocados (certainly not native to the "few acres of snow" that is Canada) is 5 for ~$6 at the moment. Bread is sometimes $4 for a crunchy loaf I like, or maybe $1 in flour when I make my own. I don't eat avocado toast, but it costs a lot less than what most people spend on decent coffee in a morning.

I did put the term "organic" in there for good reason. Yes, I know that not everyone cares, but I was trying to go to the opposite end of the spectrum to the "50c" claim I was replying to.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by no_time »

errantmind wrote: post #78

It is obvious to anyone who has been here for a while that this community is in decline, in the sense that it has less depth, less quirkiness, and less 'real' diversity of opinion (although dang does a good job of stemming the tide). The 'hivemind' has emerged here to squash contrasting positions. The funny thing is, no one thinks they are a part of this emergent 'hivemind' but the end result is the same.

Saying community is in constant decline is such an internet thing. A certain other website with a blue background and trumpets has been full of messages like this for the last 20 years, yet it's still a fun place to lurk.

HN is one of the few places on the internet where you can play devil's advocate and still live to see the top of the comments page because the number of people who read half sentences and instantly flag/downvote is very low. I think this is one of the biggest things setting it apart from Reddit.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by heywintermute »

na85 wrote: post #160

It ebbs and flows. There was a time not so long ago where it seemed like every third article on HN was about yet another JavaScript framework. I'd much rather read about a startup's postmortem than about some monads-as-a-service library releasing version 14.374.299

>every third article on HN was about yet another JavaScript framework.

Felt like that with articles about Rust as well

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