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Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Has anyone done a rigorous analysis of his writing style to find a human match?

Yes. If you Google “satoshi Stylometry” you’ll find a ton. IMO not very fruitful, there is other evidence that is more compelling. If you look around enough it’s easily to get a _pretty good_ idea of who it was, based on things like early interactions with satoshi, neighbors with unusual surnames, etc. but no way to know for sure.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Replies to that article mention Len's tweets about Bitcoin don't necessarily seem like those of its creator, if he was tweeting earnestly.

That, and his wife not believing he was Satoshi (while not claiming it was impossible) are the biggest counterpoints I've come across.

Still, I find it a very compelling case. Sassaman as part of a Satoshi collective also seems possible.

https://twitter.com/search?q=(Bitcoin)%20(from%3Alensassaman...

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Nitpicking but it's annoying - Why does this post insist on using the singular 'they/their' (in reference to Satoshi) when the normal 'he/his' would suffice and read much more clearly?

Because Satoshi's identity and whether or not they were a singular individual or a group of individuals is unknown. It is entirely acceptable, and more often than not probabilistically and politically correct, to use they/them here. I doubt anyone would be upset at people using he/him when referring to Satoshi, but also along those same lines, it seems strange to be upset at they/them usage for an unknown entity.

https://japanese-names.info/first_name/satoshi/

>Gender:male

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Nitpicking but it's annoying - Why does this post insist on using the singular 'they/their' (in reference to Satoshi) when the normal 'he/his' would suffice and read much more clearly?

Because Satoshi's identity and whether or not they were a singular individual or a group of individuals is unknown. It is entirely acceptable, and more often than not probabilistically and politically correct, to use they/them here. I doubt anyone would be upset at people using he/him when referring to Satoshi, but also along those same lines, it seems strange to be upset at they/them usage for an unknown entity.

If it's not even known that Satoshi was an individual, how is it known they weren't a woman?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Satoshi's identity and whether or not they were a singular individual or a group of individuals is unknown. It is entirely acceptable, and more often than not probabilistically and politically correct, to use they/them here. I doubt anyone would be upset at people using he/him when referring to Satoshi, but also along those same lines, it seems strange to be upset at they/them usage for an unknown entity.

https://japanese-names.info/first_name/satoshi/ >Gender:male

And this means what? I certainly could provide a counterexample if you think people always use pseudonyms of the same gender.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Satoshi's identity and whether or not they were a singular individual or a group of individuals is unknown. It is entirely acceptable, and more often than not probabilistically and politically correct, to use they/them here. I doubt anyone would be upset at people using he/him when referring to Satoshi, but also along those same lines, it seems strange to be upset at they/them usage for an unknown entity.

https://japanese-names.info/first_name/satoshi/ >Gender:male

A good opportunity to learn about the so-called DQN name [1] or Irohahime [2].

[1] https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%82%AD%E3... (in Japanese)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irohahime

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Nitpicking but it's annoying - Why does this post insist on using the singular 'they/their' (in reference to Satoshi) when the normal 'he/his' would suffice and read much more clearly?

Because Satoshi's identity and whether or not they were a singular individual or a group of individuals is unknown. It is entirely acceptable, and more often than not probabilistically and politically correct, to use they/them here. I doubt anyone would be upset at people using he/him when referring to Satoshi, but also along those same lines, it seems strange to be upset at they/them usage for an unknown entity.

I think the author of the article already assumes Satoshi is a single person. The name is simply a Japanese male name. So it is obviously wrong to call him "they". This kind of stupidity only works in Woke English. Translate it to most other languages will make the readers deeply confused: what's wrong with the writer? What's going on in his mind?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Satoshi's identity and whether or not they were a singular individual or a group of individuals is unknown. It is entirely acceptable, and more often than not probabilistically and politically correct, to use they/them here. I doubt anyone would be upset at people using he/him when referring to Satoshi, but also along those same lines, it seems strange to be upset at they/them usage for an unknown entity.

If it's not even known that Satoshi was an individual, how is it known they weren't a woman?

The individual used a male name, so it’s reasonable to make that assumption in common speech.

In terms of individual vs group, it seems unlikely that a group would have the discipline to not do anything with billions of dollars or expose the individual with control of the same.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://japanese-names.info/first_name/satoshi/ >Gender:male

And this means what? I certainly could provide a counterexample if you think people always use pseudonyms of the same gender.

If someone chooses a male pseudonym, is it sensible for everyone to individually decide what pronouns to use? This strikes me as opposed to similar etiquette.
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