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Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by idrios »

Traster wrote: post #20
mindcrime wrote: post #3

Funny, I'd say there's less, no, a LOT less, startup / business oriented discussion here than in the past. To me, the big thing that has emerged over the past few years has been a lot more "stuff" that can loosely be described as "politics / culture / public policy / society" or whatever. And if I could wave a magic wand and change anything, I'd ban that stuff. Because I agree, " I'd like to see conversations about s…

I actually think this is a problem hackers have in general. It's the Zuckerberg problem. You build something cool, you want to talk about all the tricks you did to scale to N billion users and all anyone can talk about is that genocide you caused. You just built the tech, right? It's all about the Tech. Except it's not about the tech when you're actually having an effect on people's lives, and we should be more willi…

Facebook created React to get notifications to show up in real time so you no longer needed to refresh the page. There's a place for discussion on the impact of realtime notifications on mental health, and a place for discussion on the use cases of React. You absolutely can separate conversations about technologies from their impact

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by bluedino »

gonzo41 wrote: post #127
kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you had avocado toast? It’ll rock your world, seriously.

It'll also bankrupt you. I feel (because it's a feeling) that HN stays good because it lacks images in the discussion area. The clean look, no adds, limited everything really proves the case that less is more.

It's maybe fifty cents a slice if you make it yourself

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

anonymouse008 wrote: post #108
acjohnson55 wrote: post #91

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I think it's almost the opposite. There are great subreddits for pretty much every niche in programming. HN is one size fits all, and a lot of content just never makes the front page, because of bad luck in the New queue, or it's too niche. The front page is the way it is because the regulars and the regular content have reached an equilibrium.

Mind pointing us to a particular subreddit or item that didn’t make the front page? More so that we all don’t miss out on those new opportunities!

/r/embedded tends to be pretty decent. Of course it's highly specific to embedded development, but the better subs tend to be the more narrowly-focused ones.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by ItsMonkk »

geon wrote: post #50
dougmwne wrote: post #43

I think it may be time for a userbase fork. All the politics, policy and economic, and general business news to one side, all the hardware, software, science, startup, and tech business news to the other.

So you want subhackernewses? Like /h/business ?

No, don't group by content - group by people. Let the people decide which group they want to discuss things with.

Going from subreddit to subreddit where each one has its own community only breeds anonymous behaviour - toxicity. What you ultimately want to do is find the ~1k people that want to discuss the things that you want to discuss.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by quicklime »

obeid wrote: post #49
quicklime wrote: post #33

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Zuck and his employees at Facebook need to talk about the social impacts of their tech, for sure. But why does that topic need to be discussed on HN? We (both broader society, as well as the subset of it that makes up the "tech community") have other forums for that.

I too, would like an echo chamber, please.

There's a big difference between restricting topics, and restricting viewpoints. The latter creates echo chambers, the former doesn't.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by shusaku »

lifthrasiir wrote: post #90
mindcrime wrote: post #3

Funny, I'd say there's less, no, a LOT less, startup / business oriented discussion here than in the past. To me, the big thing that has emerged over the past few years has been a lot more "stuff" that can loosely be described as "politics / culture / public policy / society" or whatever. And if I could wave a magic wand and change anything, I'd ban that stuff. Because I agree, " I'd like to see conversations about s…

The HN guideline says "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity" can be on-topic. In my opinion this summary is pretty much correct and also useless, because hackers seem to be curious about almost everything. I am interested in politics after all. But I don't think HN is or can be a good venue for political discourses. Of course some links can be very political and yet marginally technological due to the…

There are so few sites out there where you can have a real discussion about “ anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity”. I recall posting on a space subreddit an article that talked about mining asteroids for water, and it was abundantly obvious that zero of the responders read past the title (which only mentioned mining asteroids, not the water part). Hacker News is far from perfect, but here at least you have some real hope that others will read the posted article and drive a discussion based on the specific content. I would hate for this site to be too tech focused… I mean what other site would I go to if I read, for example, a great article on theory of the mind, an obscure language, etc.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by TheRealDevonMcC »

elzbardico wrote: post #123
jquery wrote: post #119

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I think California having the lowest Covid-19 rate in the nation has helped its reputation a lot. We’ve traditionally caught a lot of flack for woo woo crystal healing but it seems Texas and Florida are totally stealing our thunder these days.

One of the lowest. Not the lowest. And you can't infer too much about it without considering a lot of other stuff, like demographic composition.

Considering how diverse California's demographic composition is, as opposed to say, Vermont, they deserve credit for doing better than the country as a whole.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by 1_player »

mindcrime wrote: post #3

Funny, I'd say there's less, no, a LOT less, startup / business oriented discussion here than in the past. To me, the big thing that has emerged over the past few years has been a lot more "stuff" that can loosely be described as "politics / culture / public policy / society" or whatever. And if I could wave a magic wand and change anything, I'd ban that stuff. Because I agree, " I'd like to see conversations about s…

Lately 60% of HN's front page is indistinguishable from Ars Technica. Just common denominator techy or popsci news.

I'd rather see a post about yet another JS framework honestly.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Post by joe-collins »

elzbardico wrote: post #123
jquery wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think California having the lowest Covid-19 rate in the nation has helped its reputation a lot. We’ve traditionally caught a lot of flack for woo woo crystal healing but it seems Texas and Florida are totally stealing our thunder these days.

One of the lowest. Not the lowest. And you can't infer too much about it without considering a lot of other stuff, like demographic composition.

There might be some to that, but having bottom quartile infection rates while containing an eighth of the US population seems like a strong statement from any angle.
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