Someone made an interesting point that we got rid of cholera by drinking cleaner water and that we'll get rid of Covid by breathing cleaner air.
Real-world data show that filters clean Covid-causing virus from air
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#142You can build your own high-flow HEPA filter for about $45: 1x 20-inch box fan ($20) 1x 20x20 MERV-13+ MPR-2400+ HVAC air filter ($20) 1x roll of duct tape ($2.50) Air particle meters and other testing show they work just as well as big expensive machines (it's just the filter doing all the work). This is indeed a dirt cheap way to improve overall health.
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#143Obviously. So what would’ve happened if we had created a zillion jobs installing air filtration to create healthier workplaces across many dimensions (not just Covid) instead of paying people to stay home?
Do you have a time machine to bring this bit of information back in time? And, would anyone have believed you? Many things are obvious in hindsight.
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#144Wouldn’t be a bad idea to start having air filters in confined spaces. Elevators, gyms, restaurants. Not saying it has to happen all at once, but it would help decrease most respiratory diseases from spreading.
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#145So who makes a good room air filter? I have a dozen container ships go by, a few hundred meters away from my window a day.
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#147Someone made an interesting point that we got rid of cholera by drinking cleaner water and that we'll get rid of Covid by breathing cleaner air.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Have you lived any length of time in Canada? Yes, I am a Canadian. I lived there for 25 years. I have Canadian citizenship. Most of my family still lives there. I also ended up stuck in Ontario for most of COVID. I have family in Ontario, in Quebec, and elsewhere in the country. I don't think Ontario had a very good handle on COVID. It's also no secret that Canada is suffering a major staffing, and funding shortage…
The masks might have been after seeing a different comment, sorry. The problem with improving the system is that 1/3 of the country seems to want the US system in healthcare and probably (lots?) of other things. So it goes. Re: Ontario, I was looking at Ottawa specifically, the province generally and while it's "blessed" with a Conservative premier he's taken more medical advice (or indulged his populist leanings) mo…
Could you be conflating talks about "privatization" (allowing private clinics to exist and take OHIP) with private healthcare payments (you don't get OHIP) by mistake? Those two are not really the same at all, but get conflated in the media often.
That last part there about Ottawa or Ontario, not sure which one, doesn't really make much sense, sorry. It's unclear what you're getting at. Nothing there really sounds related to what I'm talking about.
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#149Someone made an interesting point that we got rid of cholera by drinking cleaner water and that we'll get rid of Covid by breathing cleaner air.
Fish tank filters are practically required for fish. I don't see why home air filters (HEPA) aren't more common especially in extreme environments with window opening not realistic.
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#150Someone made an interesting point that we got rid of cholera by drinking cleaner water and that we'll get rid of Covid by breathing cleaner air.
If someone standing in front of you sneezes, a filter in the HVAC isn’t doing anything to stop you from getting covid.
I mean, isn’t airborne transmission still uncertain for Covid?