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Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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I noticed a media disk drive grinding away the other day, nothing made sense to be causing it. Turns out Chrome now scans all your drives and sends executables back to Google by default or something (software_reporter_tool.exe), even if you are a software developer in competition with them (practically all software developers since Google are essentially all-encompassing at this point). Is it intuitive to anyone that…

I can't find anything like that on my machine and am running the latest Chrome; where is that executable located on disk?

AppData/Local/Google/Chrome/User Data/SwReporter/[VERSION]/software_reporter_tool.exe

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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There are a lot of open source scripts and tools on GitHub for accomplishing the same goal (in various state of being out-of-date, abandoned, etc.); I started collecting the ones that appear somewhat active here: https://github.com/TemporalAgent7/awesome-windows-privacy I plan on going through them to weed out duplicates and duds. You shouldn't trust any of those blindly, but definitely read through the code; I'm par…

I noticed a media disk drive grinding away the other day, nothing made sense to be causing it. Turns out Chrome now scans all your drives and sends executables back to Google by default or something (software_reporter_tool.exe), even if you are a software developer in competition with them (practically all software developers since Google are essentially all-encompassing at this point). Is it intuitive to anyone that…

The gracious guess would be an attempt to detect malware by sending or fetching hashes to match.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed a media disk drive grinding away the other day, nothing made sense to be causing it. Turns out Chrome now scans all your drives and sends executables back to Google by default or something (software_reporter_tool.exe), even if you are a software developer in competition with them (practically all software developers since Google are essentially all-encompassing at this point). Is it intuitive to anyone that…

I have... noticed something similar to this too I have a single remaining windows box that is completely idle with a rust disk and it's started spinning up for no apparent reason how did you figure out it was Chrome? edit: going to try procmon with the filter set to the disk

I think I just sorted standard windows task manager by disk% to find it.

Nvidia is another culprit, Geforce Experience scans all your drives constantly to look for new games or something like that.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed a media disk drive grinding away the other day, nothing made sense to be causing it. Turns out Chrome now scans all your drives and sends executables back to Google by default or something (software_reporter_tool.exe), even if you are a software developer in competition with them (practically all software developers since Google are essentially all-encompassing at this point). Is it intuitive to anyone that…

If you're sure that's actually Google's application doing it, and can show it happening with clear evidence, then I recommend reporting it to the media and everyone else you can think of. That sort of behaviour is essentially espionage and I'm sure it would be enough to get Chrome banned from many places which were previously happy to use it.

I found this on it:

https://www.google.com/chrome/privacy/whitepaper.html#unwant...

> In addition, if you have opted in to automatically report details of possible security incidents to Google, Chrome will report information about unwanted software, including relevant file metadata and system settings linked to the unwanted software found on your computer.

I don't think I ever opted in to this but they may have have had tricky wording or I just didn't catch it. From searching around, there seems to be no way to opt out of the scan itself (not the submission) except denying read permissions to the software_reporter_tool.exe's folder. So if you have spinning drives that you want to keep idle when not in use, for power and longevity reasons, you are SOL without remembering each time you setup a machine.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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post #181

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I can't find anything like that on my machine and am running the latest Chrome; where is that executable located on disk?

AppData/Local/Google/Chrome/User Data/SwReporter/[VERSION]/software_reporter_tool.exe

Thank you, found it. It looks like it's not a new thing, it's been around for at least 6 years; it's possible they recently expanded its scope to scan more of one's disk which would be unfortunate. Found some details here for how to disable it: https://www.ghacks.net/2018/01/20/how-to-block-the-chrome-so...

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're sure that's actually Google's application doing it, and can show it happening with clear evidence, then I recommend reporting it to the media and everyone else you can think of. That sort of behaviour is essentially espionage and I'm sure it would be enough to get Chrome banned from many places which were previously happy to use it.

I found this on it: https://www.google.com/chrome/privacy/whitepaper.html#unwant... > In addition, if you have opted in to automatically report details of possible security incidents to Google, Chrome will report information about unwanted software, including relevant file metadata and system settings linked to the unwanted software found on your computer. I don't think I ever opted in to this but they may have have…

From there, we get to https://www.google.com/about/unwanted-software-policy.html

which says

After installation, programs should not engage in deceptive or unexpected behavior. Some examples of deceptive or unexpected behavior include:[...]Preventing the user from controlling the software[...]The user must have a meaningful opportunity to review and approve any principal and significant updates or settings changes.

Disclosure is especially important if data collection is a non-obvious feature of the software.

Pure unadulterated hypocrisy. Not surprising coming from Google.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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The UI is confusing (double negatives). Does Red "Disable Inventory Collector" mean that is enabled? Red, to me, usually means off on a toggle switch. It's explained in the help.

If only they would just use normal checkboxes, available on Windows since the 80s, instead of these stupid ambiguous slider-switches, they would be perfectly clear with the additional advantage that you can use them while colourblind. Check to disable, uncheck to enable. It's the result of another idiotic attempt at UI "modernity". (Then again, the double negatives in Windows' own Group Policy Editor, where some if n…

Agreed, UI's may look "sexier" these days but they're less usable.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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NextDNS offers “ Native Tracking Protection “ Which is currently in BETA. … “Block wide spectrum trackers — often operating at the operating system level — that track your activity on a device. This could include all the websites you visit, everything you type or your location at all times.”

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed a media disk drive grinding away the other day, nothing made sense to be causing it. Turns out Chrome now scans all your drives and sends executables back to Google by default or something (software_reporter_tool.exe), even if you are a software developer in competition with them (practically all software developers since Google are essentially all-encompassing at this point). Is it intuitive to anyone that…

If you're sure that's actually Google's application doing it, and can show it happening with clear evidence, then I recommend reporting it to the media and everyone else you can think of. That sort of behaviour is essentially espionage and I'm sure it would be enough to get Chrome banned from many places which were previously happy to use it.

It has done this for years. Its not new behavior. Also why I use Firefox and Comodo Firewall. I would remove all privs on the file in Windows to stop it. Deleting will only be temporary.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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I have to use Windows once in a while (circumstances). Best way to forget about the existence of spyware (aka telemetry) that I found is to not connect a Windows box directly to internet. I configured my router to give it a gateway and DNS IPs which don't exist in the network. Eat that, Microsoft. And I can still connect to internet by manually setting a SOCKSv5a proxy to the router in Firefox and other software that…

Wow! Thank you for that tip. Block the machine's internet access with a firewall but connect the browsers over a SOCKS proxy. I mean, I do have a couple of containers up and running on a Raspberry Pi offering nothing but intranet SSH services while the containers are connected via OpenVPN to differnt VPN servers, so that I can use different browsers which connect via SOCKS each to one container in order to have one b…

Make sure to manually download the Windows patches every Tuesday, since Windows Update won't work by itself.
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