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It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

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Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

#61
I think as reddit continued to decline, more people here became interested in debating politics, societal stuff since there was no other "serious" place for it. I wish some of that stuff wasn't here, since it takes away from discussions in other threads.

But (and I hope dang sees this) occasionally when HN "strays" away from tech it's absolutely brilliant. There's tons of discussion here on some health issues, diets, stuff like that, where I would never have found such good discussion (even the anecdotal evidence is interesting and useful) and where you can really walk away being better off from having read it. If that means tolerating the occasional thread about how appropriate politics is in the workplace, or how bad everything is for mental health, I'm more than happy to keep coming back here for that.

edit: by the way, I'd be quite interested in what a thread like this posted 8 years ago would look like. Wouldn't be surprised if people were saying this website was "going downhill" too back then. I think as long as the 12-18 only-cares-about-memes demographic stays on reddit, HN will stay just fine.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

#62
You can do an analysis of this, you don't have to rely on personal impressions. Download representative samples of the top hn posts over time. Use open source or free sample tools to classify the text of posts or titles and see how that has changed. You could even do a write up on the experience

If you think we don't talk about hacking enough, then give us something to talk about

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

#63

There is an alternate defintion of hacker, that of the "startup hacker" or "growth hacker," that this site seems to follow more closely. Disappointing, for sure.

Yeah. It is less of a “roots” definition of hacker and more of a “how can I hack the system to get rich with technology”.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be interested in a wrapper around hacker news that lets you filter to only technical discussions? (I'm already playing with wrapping it so that probably isn't hard to add)

If I could filter all politics out of hacker news that would be great. the comments especially are filled with "useful idiots" I have filtered a lot of politics on twitter by blocking prominent politicians and mute words.

I added a flag for technical and then sort it by hot [1]. I just needed to train a classifier so there's less manual classification needed.

Maybe something like a naive bayes [0] will work? I'm not sure if it's the best dataset. I could make my own dataset by just looking at how many removed comments there are :P

I haven't implemented a classifier before so it may take me a few days. If you'd like to be notified when it's actually working send me an email at info@{the site name}

[0] - https://www.kaggle.com/kinguistics/classifying-news-headline...

[1] - https://efficientdemocracy.com/technical-and-hot

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

#66

Funny, I'd say there's less, no, a LOT less, startup / business oriented discussion here than in the past. To me, the big thing that has emerged over the past few years has been a lot more "stuff" that can loosely be described as "politics / culture / public policy / society" or whatever. And if I could wave a magic wand and change anything, I'd ban that stuff. Because I agree, " I'd like to see conversations about s…

Hackers have long been interested in politics/culture/public policy.

There has always been a strong anti-authoritarian ethos to hacker culture, one where personal privacy and bodily autonomy and the right to encryption were intrinsically at odds with corporate and government attempts to control and surveil, and I hope that doesn't go away.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

#67
Hacker News is essentially entertainment. Nothing here is accurate, most voices are not speaking from experience but a sort of caricature role-playing.

There are occasionally helpful resources, all the same. There was a thread a few months back maybe of a list of different blog authors in various tech fields. If you want high-quality, informed, well-written news, you gotta curate it yourself.

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

#69

Programmers aren’t interested in the same programming related topics because everyone is too specialized now. The topics I’d be interested in would be boring to someone else, etc. aside from stuff about elixir which we all geek out on. So general tech topics like dunking on Facebook/apple/surveillance tech and complaining about leetcode job interview headaches get much traction.

This is probably the main explanation, I agree. There are countless programming languages and storage methods and so on, 99% of which aren't really of interest to me. I use one long-out-of-fashion programming language only ever mentioned as a punchline, and one non-trendy database. Broader topics usually are of interest to me, and tech-adjacent or societal things relevant worldwide like approaches to housing, homelessness, how we use the environment, developments in growing/selling food (robot restaurants).

Re: It's weird that most of “Hacker” news is dominated by business news

#70

Something I noticed about Slashdot was that it started out talking about the latest processors, software, and Linux kernel patches. Then the conversation ever-so-slowly started drifting towards CEOs, the sharemarket, politics, and the like. It's a side-effect of an aging user base. Young people get excited about New Things! With big numbers! Older people get bored of the latest technological advancements and instead…

I genuinely wonder if HN has been stagnant with the same people visiting it as 5 years ago. And thus your statement is accurate.

Surely with the influx of people early in the pandemic this isn't the case?
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