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Delta does not appear to make children sicker

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Re: Delta does not appear to make children sicker

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Post by throwaway72722 »

rafale wrote: post #6
peteradio wrote: post #2

Double-whammy article, second title: Secondary immune response stronger after infection than after shot

If the immune response is comparable to that of a fully vaccinated person, we should be issuing "immunization cards" to people who have recovered. The goal is to control the disease, not the people.

Succinct way of describing it there, especially if prior infection is even stronger than the vaccine.

Unfortunately, vaccine passports appear to be used more as a punishment for not complying than being about disease control.

Edit - Incredible how you can be downvoted for laying out crystal clear logic there. Covid, eh!

Re: Delta does not appear to make children sicker

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Post by angelzen »

afavour wrote: post #4
wizard-beta wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shhhh... don't let science get in the way of the ongoing power grab by the surveillance state and the ongoing money grab by big pharma

What’s science supposed to be contradicting here? The article says Delta doesn’t make kids sick er than other variants, not that it doesn’t make them sick at all. A shot is still going to be preferable to an infection because it isn’t communicable.

Kids have vanishingly small risk of covid death, 1%-2% of the already vanishingly small risk of death for kids. The article confirms that the 'long covid in kids' fearmongering is also unwarranted. Given that surviving an infection also provides better long term protection (99.9995% of children survive covid), and that an infection later in life becomes significantly more dangerous, it raises big questions over the short-term strategy of covid vaccinating children. In particular as California has mandated covid vaccines for children, which could prove downright harmful long term.

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2021/10/08/covid-...

https://data.cdc.gov/resource/3apk-4u4f.csv

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-educa...

Re: Delta does not appear to make children sicker

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Post by kybernetyk »

Pxtl wrote: post #13
peteradio wrote: post #2

Double-whammy article, second title: Secondary immune response stronger after infection than after shot

Yes you can get natural immunity from COVID. You can also get dead, or permanent brain or lung damage. Get the shots.

Or you can get a heart defect from the shots. Or blood clots.

So there's no categorical "take the shot" or "dont take the shot". It's your personal risk profile that should be the deciding factor. Not some troll on the internet/tv telling you what to do.

Re: Delta does not appear to make children sicker

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Post by glogla »

kybernetyk wrote: post #15
Pxtl wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes you can get natural immunity from COVID. You can also get dead, or permanent brain or lung damage. Get the shots.

Or you can get a heart defect from the shots. Or blood clots. So there's no categorical "take the shot" or "dont take the shot". It's your personal risk profile that should be the deciding factor. Not some troll on the internet/tv telling you what to do.

This is just standard anti-vax bullshit.

Re: Delta does not appear to make children sicker

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Post by Pxtl »

Well yeah, the problem with Delta is that it's so infectious that the tiny fraction of kids that face real risk is still a huge number as an absolute value.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/144680575939271...

> Now a top trending killer in kids 5-14: #DeltaVariant.

> Surging from near 0% in June to now ~8% of deaths in kids 5-14 are #COVID19 in September.

Some of those kids can get the shots, and should.

Re: Delta does not appear to make children sicker

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Post by tomp »

Pxtl wrote: post #13
peteradio wrote: post #2

Double-whammy article, second title: Secondary immune response stronger after infection than after shot

Yes you can get natural immunity from COVID. You can also get dead, or permanent brain or lung damage. Get the shots.

Is anyone seriously arguing both against the vaccine and pro infection?

People are just saying (and science confirms) that previously infected shouldn't be discriminated against or forced to vaccinate.

Re: Delta does not appear to make children sicker

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Post by tootie »

angelzen wrote: post #12
afavour wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s science supposed to be contradicting here? The article says Delta doesn’t make kids sick er than other variants, not that it doesn’t make them sick at all. A shot is still going to be preferable to an infection because it isn’t communicable.

Kids have vanishingly small risk of covid death, 1%-2% of the already vanishingly small risk of death for kids. The article confirms that the 'long covid in kids' fearmongering is also unwarranted. Given that surviving an infection also provides better long term protection (99.9995% of children survive covid), and that an infection later in life becomes significantly more dangerous, it raises big questions over the s…

It's unbelievable that this far into the pandemic people are still making this argument. It has been known from near the beginning that the direct risk to kids is relatively small. The risk is secondary exposure. Kids in school spread diseases like kudzu and can expose hundreds of adults very quickly. Protecting kids will prevent spread. Not to mention kids who are vaccinated can still possibly be exposed to covid and have a further immune response as strong as full infection (this bit is not proven, I'm speculating).

Re: Delta does not appear to make children sicker

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Post by anonymouswacker »

kybernetyk wrote: post #15
Pxtl wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes you can get natural immunity from COVID. You can also get dead, or permanent brain or lung damage. Get the shots.

Or you can get a heart defect from the shots. Or blood clots. So there's no categorical "take the shot" or "dont take the shot". It's your personal risk profile that should be the deciding factor. Not some troll on the internet/tv telling you what to do.

Yes, but if you catch covid and survive it, you should do the right thing and still get vaccinated against it, because that is more betterer, according to the the completely unbiased media that they happen to be injecting with cash while they otherwise circle the drain.
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