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Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Re: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Post by vegetablepotpie »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #23

I don't understand how the police are called for a playground fight? (not even serious!) And then they are allowed to arrest children? Isn't there a law against that?

It wasn’t even a playground fight it was a fight off school grounds. Police were sent to arrest the children on school grounds. I’ll quip, schools exist for the convenience of law enforcement, as it’s a place where children congregate so that they can be easily arrested.

The children were charged under “criminal responsibility”, which is not a crime, and they did not violate the law. The police did violate the law by locking the children in detention, which can only be done in very narrow circumstances, but there are loopholes, such as using the term TRUE THREAT.

Re: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Post by crawfordcomeaux »

_hilro wrote: post #48
pjc50 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, she's just a racist. Motivated reasoning is an incredibly strong force. (It's very tempting to regard people we strongly disagree with as insane, but it's a mistake that both impairs dealing with actual mental illness compassionately and fighting them politically. She's perfectly rational and sane, she's just reasoning from a set of beliefs and emotional values that you find abhorrent)

Whilst the main story of the focus is the case involving black kids, the story also details the case of a white kid wronged by this person. If stats were available to show black children in general were targeted, the piece would have included them. Including 'Black children' in the title is unnecessary other than one of the arresting officers in this particular case wondered would this(arresting/cuffing at school ove…

Davenport carries adultism. That's the word.

Re: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Post by crawfordcomeaux »

secondcoming wrote: post #29

Why the capitalisation of 'black' and 'latino', but not 'white'? Is there a grammatical rule, or is it just politics?

Maybe it's because "white" people don't have white skin? I've literally never met anyone with #FFFFFF skin tone.

There's just people who think they're white and who others would identify as white.

Doesn't make them whiter...

So no, let's not give lying equal respect in grammar. Let's show the distinction and deny people who think they're white any kind of collective class recognition. If you want capitalization, here it is: people who THINK they're white.

Re: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Post by vegetablepotpie »

_hilro wrote: post #48
pjc50 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, she's just a racist. Motivated reasoning is an incredibly strong force. (It's very tempting to regard people we strongly disagree with as insane, but it's a mistake that both impairs dealing with actual mental illness compassionately and fighting them politically. She's perfectly rational and sane, she's just reasoning from a set of beliefs and emotional values that you find abhorrent)

Whilst the main story of the focus is the case involving black kids, the story also details the case of a white kid wronged by this person. If stats were available to show black children in general were targeted, the piece would have included them. Including 'Black children' in the title is unnecessary other than one of the arresting officers in this particular case wondered would this(arresting/cuffing at school ove…

We are assuming the evidence exists, the article says the county and state have both discontinued reporting of juvenile detention statistics.

Sure, the only evidence we have of racial targeting is anecdotal, but if we use a Bayesian approach, the fact that the party that is conducting the profiling shuts off the data that would disprove that notion, it gives us a very strong prior.

Re: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Post by upofadown »

When you elect your judges those judges will tend to:

* Loudly and publicly show how well they are doing their job, which will often be interpreted as fighting crime.

* Only bother non-majority groups that can not vote them out of their position while doing that job.

Re: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Post by LocalH »

crawfordcomeaux wrote: post #53
secondcoming wrote: post #29

Why the capitalisation of 'black' and 'latino', but not 'white'? Is there a grammatical rule, or is it just politics?

Maybe it's because "white" people don't have white skin? I've literally never met anyone with #FFFFFF skin tone. There's just people who think they're white and who others would identify as white. Doesn't make them whiter... So no, let's not give lying equal respect in grammar. Let's show the distinction and deny people who think they're white any kind of collective class recognition. If you want capitalization, here…

Black people don't have #000000 skin tone, either.

Re: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Post by chris_wot »

lancebeet wrote: post #6
chris_wot wrote: post #4

Hey Americans protesting to "free" Australia, worry about your own country.

That's a very specific group to address. Who are these Americans protesting to "free" Australia?

Try:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/anti-vaccine-protesters-in-new-y...

Re: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Post by chris_wot »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #22
chris_wot wrote: post #4

Hey Americans protesting to "free" Australia, worry about your own country.

Because Australia has no skeletons in the closet about how it treats black people right?

We don't have skeletons, we know about them and are actively addressing them. Not fast enough, or well enough IMO, but it is happening.

Re: Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist

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Post by crawfordcomeaux »

LocalH wrote: post #57
crawfordcomeaux wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's because "white" people don't have white skin? I've literally never met anyone with #FFFFFF skin tone. There's just people who think they're white and who others would identify as white. Doesn't make them whiter... So no, let's not give lying equal respect in grammar. Let's show the distinction and deny people who think they're white any kind of collective class recognition. If you want capitalization, here…

Black people don't have #000000 skin tone, either.

They also didn't choose to be labeled by their skin color. It's the white body supremacy game where that came from. It's up to people who think they're white to start abandoning these lies because it's people who think they're white who persist the lies.
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