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Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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It's true that in practice 1000 horoscope apps or 10000 horoscope apps is not going to make a difference for the user. Maybe apple is afraid it can saturate their review process.

A 2 trillion dollar company that is flushed with cash should not have any process bottleneck.

Not one based on manpower anyway

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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App Store development has me sort of offended. If I build it I’m not certain users can even try it unless apple (gatekeeper) decides their user base should. It’s certainly a walled garden and perhaps a reason I’ve steered my career away from mobile development.

We need to be able to use non-Apple app stores for iPhone.

I'd rather have a single App Store which have a very limited selection of apps. On the other hand, make the browser powerful enough and you can then install any app you want.

At this point, I really think Apple is sabotaging Safari on iOS. Here is a comparison with Chrome on Android: https://caniuse.com/?compare=ios_saf+15,and_chr+94&compareCa...

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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This is troubling because the future economy will be segregated to corporate walled gardens with each of them standing as gatekeepers to a falsely free economy, under the guise that it’s a private network.

Couple that with a % of every economic transaction that occurs within these walled gardens, these companies are amazing capital and gaining political influence at a faster rate.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Heow do the walls help Apple's store serve users, would it be worse if they allowed other app stores?

I think we can be sure that any uncurated app stores would quickly become a cesspit. Once you acknowledge this you have to accept that original complainant would have the same problem everywhere. Nobody will want his trash in their store.

Allowing other app stores doesn't imply that they are uncurated.

And the threat of alternative app store competition would of course also limit the censorship and abuse of power Apple/Google can pull in their app store practices.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Proposal: When a new app is submitted in a saturated category, poll the oldest N apps for usage and developer activity. If one of them is below a threshold of relevance then mark it for removal and allow the new app to replace it.

This is a really good idea -- I have apps in the store that I haven't touched in 5 years that still get downloads but I have no idea if the app even works any more and I don't care to check

Do people a favor and remove the listing for them.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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post #56

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It's true that in practice 1000 horoscope apps or 10000 horoscope apps is not going to make a difference for the user. Maybe apple is afraid it can saturate their review process.

A 2 trillion dollar company that is flushed with cash should not have any process bottleneck.

Hey now. They don’t have that much cash. They have spent nearly $350B cash on stock buybacks in the past five years!

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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We should also tell Google to limit the search results to just 5. That would prevent you from having to see tons of search results on google.

> We should also tell Google to limit the search results to just 5 Generic we shouldn't. But if Google decided to do that, I can't see how one could object.

Two sponsored ads, one link to a content farm, and two links to Pinterest. Probably not a lot different from what we see already.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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App Store development has me sort of offended. If I build it I’m not certain users can even try it unless apple (gatekeeper) decides their user base should. It’s certainly a walled garden and perhaps a reason I’ve steered my career away from mobile development.

We need to be able to use non-Apple app stores for iPhone.

Exactly.

For any single app store — no matter who is running it or how — there has to be a line drawn somewhere about what should or shouldn’t be in it.

(At the least you’re probably going to want to filter out illegal apps… but the line between legal and illegal is complex, uncertain, changes over time, and is different in different jurisdictions.)

It’s fine — desirable even — for Apple to have wide leeway to decide what they want to have in their store.

They just shouldn’t be able to stop people from shopping at other stores.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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I was really hoping this would be the outcome of Epic v. Apple, but alas it was not. I honestly don't know if I understand any reasoning behind it. I would buy an iPhone tomorrow if I could get a web browser or keyboard that weren't effectively skins of the default/included one.

While web browsers on iOS are unfortunately just re-skinned Safari, you actually are able to create/download totally custom keyboards. A while back I created a custom keyboard to translate what you type and help you learn a new language.

> While web browsers on iOS are unfortunately just re-skinned Safari,

Is that also true for Firefox, Chrome on iOS?

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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I think we can be sure that any uncurated app stores would quickly become a cesspit. Once you acknowledge this you have to accept that original complainant would have the same problem everywhere. Nobody will want his trash in their store.

Allowing other app stores doesn't imply that they are uncurated. And the threat of alternative app store competition would of course also limit the censorship and abuse of power Apple/Google can pull in their app store practices.

>Allowing other app stores doesn't imply that they are uncurated.

The point is once they are curated then the people writing yet another garbage horoscope app are still going to be out of luck.

>And the threat of alternative app store competition would of course also limit the censorship and abuse of power Apple/Google can pull in their app store practices.

Choosing what is in your store isn't an abuse of power.

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