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Gmail password first character is case insensitive on mobile device

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Re: Gmail password first character is case insensitive on mobile device

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Post by qwerty1793 »

josalhor wrote: post #78

This is a well-understood feature. Facebook does the same thing[0]. Quote: Facebook actually accepts three forms of your password: * Your original password. * Your original password with the first letter capitalized. This is only for mobile devices, which sometimes capitalize the first character of a word. * Your original password with the case reversed, for those with a caps lock key on. [0]: https://www.zdnet.com/a…

That may have been the case in 2011 when that article was written, but I have just tested this now and my facebook does not accept my password with the case reversed by having the caps lock key on.

Re: Gmail password first character is case insensitive on mobile device

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Post by kevincox »

listenallyall wrote: post #83
kevincox wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. My role of accepting phone numbers is `input.replace(/[^0-9+]/g, "")`. It might strip some expected information in rare cases but good enough for me. This works for a lot of other things that people format wildly like Canadian postal codes (which are A1A 1A1 format but many places require presence or absence of a space), credit cards (strip the spaces) and so many other fields.

Using letters in a phone number as a mnemonic, or just to flow better, is not a "rare case." You should revise your regex to accept letters, then whether you store them internally as letters or convert to the corresponding numbers is up to you.

That makes sense if you are making a contact book or social profile. I was focusing on the case where I want the number as contact information. I want to validate up front that it is a number that I can actually call and don't really care about how the user wants to format it.

Re: Gmail password first character is case insensitive on mobile device

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Post by klodolph »

pansa2 wrote: post #86
atoav wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like when on a cli application -h displays a hint that you probably meant --help (or the other way around). If you already know someone wants to display the help, why not just display it?

>>> exit Use exit() or Ctrl-Z plus Return to exit

In Python, it is expected that typing an identifier will not cause an action to happen... so this is consistent with that expectation.

Re: Gmail password first character is case insensitive on mobile device

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Post by croes »

sz4kerto wrote: post #77
chrisshroba wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would have thought password fields in particular would never auto-capitalize. Is this not the case?

Many people note their passwords down in eg. a text document. Not a great practice, but password management is a pain for most people. So when they do that, their editor might auto-capitalize the first character.

And then you see it's capitalized and change it.

Re: Gmail password first character is case insensitive on mobile device

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Post by wcoenen »

pansa2 wrote: post #86
atoav wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like when on a cli application -h displays a hint that you probably meant --help (or the other way around). If you already know someone wants to display the help, why not just display it?

>>> exit Use exit() or Ctrl-Z plus Return to exit

This is different, there is no special case handling here for you typing "exit".

Python functions are invoked with parenthesis, while typing a name without parenthesis retrieves the content of a variable. The Python CLI helpfully sets the "exit" variable to that string so that you don't get a confusing NameError when you make this mistake.

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Post by Freak_NL »

cute_boi wrote: post #84
atoav wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like when on a cli application -h displays a hint that you probably meant --help (or the other way around). If you already know someone wants to display the help, why not just display it?

sounds like python which don't accept ctrl + c and says you to do ctrl + d or something (i don't know python)

Using Ctrl + D to exit a shell and Ctrl + C to interrupt/break off the current line is a rather strong convention. Bash does this too, and many other REPL's and shells (Ruby's irb for one).

A lot of technical folk who rely on this immediately notice when some shell doesn't do this (exiting instead of breaking of the current input line). I have this with Hbase's hbase shell. I've dropped out of that by accident dozens of times because Ctrl + C interrupts the whole shell.

Re: Gmail password first character is case insensitive on mobile device

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Post by tracatra »

I was briefly an intern in a company in which the only part of the password that was checked were the first four characters. I don'y know whether it was due to using PIN numbers in the past or they just wanted people to feel safe but not call IT constantly about the account not working... I wonder whether they're still doing that...

Re: Gmail password first character is case insensitive on mobile device

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Post by tpxl »

cute_boi wrote: post #84
atoav wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like when on a cli application -h displays a hint that you probably meant --help (or the other way around). If you already know someone wants to display the help, why not just display it?

sounds like python which don't accept ctrl + c and says you to do ctrl + d or something (i don't know python)

I like this feature because I'll use ctrl+C to cancel the current line I'm writing like I would in a terminal. Psql does the same thing, but I started using mysql recently and I keep getting booted out of the app because I want to cancel the current line ):

Re: Gmail password first character is case insensitive on mobile device

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Post by pindab0ter »

chrisshroba wrote: post #74
johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #69

Probably a feature, not a bug. Most mobile keyboards automatically capitalize the first character by default. With the ephemeral nature of password characters upon entry; it would be easy to miss the capitalization, annoying users. This one small trick probably prevents millions of people from becoming frustrated with Google every single day. And I'll bet it only works one way. If your password was "ABCD", then by my…

I would have thought password fields in particular would never auto-capitalize. Is this not the case?

This depends on the implementation of the keyboard, which is not something you can rely on.
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