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Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by ehnto »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #71
ehnto wrote: post #41

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I have to assume you just haven't thought very hard about this problem yet, as that is a very trivial reason to give up on a free market. I would also like to point out that the ecosystem that gets you ten apps doing the same thing is the reason you get any apps at all. If people thought they were competing for one or two slots in a rigged marketplace then the incentives to participate go way down, they would take th…

> look anywhere else. But on iPhones, you can’t. There’s only one App Store , and that’s the problem.

I totally agree, that's why they can push back developers and still have some supply. But there would be a point of diminishing returns I think, where you would see app submissions decline enough to be troublesome.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

fulafel wrote: post #85
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #66

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Pardon me, but why were you using Samsung's garbage app store and not the Google Play store? More like long live F-droid as there's no way in hell I'm voluntarily locking myself into Apple's high-quality, nice and shiny walled garden where basically they fully control the device and what I'm allowed to install on it, while renting it out to me for a fee and can scan it for whenever content they want (CP pics today, T…

Not op but guessing because Play Store has some restrictive preconditions for use (eg linking a Google account).

How is that different than every other app store apart from F-Droid? Apple, Microsoft, Google, Samsung, Xiaomi and Huawei all need you to sign up for an account on their walled garden before letting you download apps.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by fshr »

cblconfederate wrote: post #83

Imagine putting on an effort for months and not even be able to put it online, literally throwing it all away. Developers are like oranges: when in excess, they are just dumped in a landfill.

How/why would a horoscope app take months to make? It sounds like a weekend project - especially if it was rejected for having nothing original or interesting to differentiate it.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by fulafel »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #92
fulafel wrote: post #85

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Not op but guessing because Play Store has some restrictive preconditions for use (eg linking a Google account).

How is that different than every other app store apart from F-Droid? Apple, Microsoft, Google, Samsung, Xiaomi and Huawei all need you to sign up for an account on their walled garden before letting you download apps.

Ah, didn't know Samsung requires that too, too bad. I'm with you on F-Droid.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by tqkxzugoaupvwqr »

ryantgtg wrote: post #75
colejohnson66 wrote: post #33

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Before Apple added the flashlight feature into their OS, flashlight apps were flooding the store. IIRC, this is the exact text they added at that time

My MIL still uses a flashlight app on her iPhone, because she doesn’t know the difference between a feature and an app, and because each time she gets a new phone all her apps are ported over. Whenever she turns on her flashlight a huge ad blazes across the screen (and the screen doesn’t seem to turn off), and I keep meaning to tell her she doesn’t need that app.

Introduce her to the built-in flashlight (“It’s right on your lock screen and a long press on the symbol turns on the flashlight”) and remove the third-party app.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by simion314 »

Elidrake24 wrote: post #87
FractalParadigm wrote: post #65

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I was really hoping this would be the outcome of Epic v. Apple, but alas it was not. I honestly don't know if I understand any reasoning behind it. I would buy an iPhone tomorrow if I could get a web browser or keyboard that weren't effectively skins of the default/included one.

You aren’t the market. Apple has curated a user base that prefers the exact opposite; I land among them. If it isn’t for you, then avoid it. That it is a more lucrative market than what Android had built with their more open ended approach is an interesting look at what the general public prefers from their mobile devices. Personally, I’m not looking for my phone to be a side project, I want it to work without puttin…

>Personally, I’m not looking for my phone to be a side project,

Nobody would force you to use non Apple shit, when an alternative sore would exist you can ignore it, when a better browser will exist you can ignore it, when alternative better chargers exists you can still buy the Premium Apple charger.

Apple fans should kiss Google ass because they can use the lazy excuse when Apple uses censorship "use an Android and side load apps if you don't like it".

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by jobigoud »

fshr wrote: post #93
cblconfederate wrote: post #83

Imagine putting on an effort for months and not even be able to put it online, literally throwing it all away. Developers are like oranges: when in excess, they are just dumped in a landfill.

How/why would a horoscope app take months to make? It sounds like a weekend project - especially if it was rejected for having nothing original or interesting to differentiate it.

I would think it would take a lot more than a week end to develop the necessary machine learning models capable of accurately predicting future events based on the user's birth day.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by yarcob »

Elidrake24 wrote: post #87
FractalParadigm wrote: post #65

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I was really hoping this would be the outcome of Epic v. Apple, but alas it was not. I honestly don't know if I understand any reasoning behind it. I would buy an iPhone tomorrow if I could get a web browser or keyboard that weren't effectively skins of the default/included one.

You aren’t the market. Apple has curated a user base that prefers the exact opposite; I land among them. If it isn’t for you, then avoid it. That it is a more lucrative market than what Android had built with their more open ended approach is an interesting look at what the general public prefers from their mobile devices. Personally, I’m not looking for my phone to be a side project, I want it to work without puttin…

I don't think most people buy iPhones because of Apple's draconian control of software distribution, I think they buy them despite of it.

If Apple sold two iPhones, one that allowed only apps from the App Store, and one that allowed apps from anywhere, I'm pretty sure most people would buy an iPhone that allowed 3rd party apps.

The current state makes me a bit sad. I've been a long term Apple user, and I'm pretty sure my next phone is going to be some Android, because as much as I like the quality of Apple's products, I just no longer want to accept Apple's restrictions.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by jobigoud »

dangero wrote: post #61
dawnerd wrote: post #32

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Years ago I made a similar app for that’s what she said jokes and was rejected due to minimal functionality. This was the same time they were allowing those scam 1000 apps that just showed a diamond. Apple makes no sense.

That's because reviews are done by a single person from a large group of possible reviewers who each have differing perspectives. Do you see a way that Apple could be consistent besides letting every app in?

Maybe have a part of the store dedicated to pre-release/experimental versions and have interested users beta test and review these. Then based on early feedback the app graduates or not to the general public.

Re: Apple rejects developer's horoscope app, says App Store has enough

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Post by CamperBob2 »

andrewljohnson wrote: post #63
unraveller wrote: post #46

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And apple calls itself an innovative company. They say no more lightbulb apps forgetting it took Edison 5000 filaments to find the best one. Naturally if you trust one dev for one job, and not to ruin the app, you will likely trust them for another, category saturation be damned. I don't see much benefit for users when the manufacturer dictates what developers are not to build for users based on some archaic first in…

Edison did not test 5,000 filaments himself, and a team of his size would always get their app through review.

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