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Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by Johnny555 »

rufus_foreman wrote: post #186
ramraj07 wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And people in Houston said they like it in Texas? The point is that the urban population pretty much hates it there given the new laws.

>> And people in Houston said they like it in Texas? They voted with their feet.

When it comes to state or federal politics, voting with your feet is not really feasible, since many people are not able to move based on political whim. Jobs, family, housing, all tend to create a lot of friction to moving. I didn't like any of the previous presidential administration's policies, yet moving out of the country was not a feasible option.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by ssb1 »

rtpg wrote: post #190
pbourke wrote: post #103

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The Netherlands has the highest English proficiency in the world [0] (among non-native speaking countries) so I imagine it would be a compelling choice. [0] https://www.ef.com/wwen/epi/

But I mean… Ireland has a higher English proficiency? There are of course a lot of things doable fully in English. But when running a company not mastering the native language (even when all of the people you talk to speak English!) can be a big drawback.

I'm willing to bet that an American would understand the English spoken in Amsterdam better than that spoken in pubs or on playgrounds in Ireland.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by bojangleslover »

pbourke wrote: post #103
jxcole wrote: post #74

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Why? This comment is not about Berlin or Paris, it is mentioning then as examples of non English speaking cities. Is the author supposed to mention every city in Europe?

The Netherlands has the highest English proficiency in the world [0] (among non-native speaking countries) so I imagine it would be a compelling choice. [0] https://www.ef.com/wwen/epi/

I'm Far more comfortable as a native English speaker in Amsterdam or Copenhagen than London or NYC.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by donalhunt »

jldugger wrote: post #51
gerdesj wrote: post #46

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I don't think you realize which Ireland you are talking about. There's Éire which is the Republic and there is also Northern Ireland, which is the UK bit in Britain. If UKoGBnNI decided to set a low tax rate ...

I promise you the Dubliners speak english well enough for the multinationals.

The Corkonians on the other hand… LOL

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by Proven »

jpmoral wrote: post #73
busymom0 wrote: post #16

I have never understood the whole "tax the rich" idea and I am not rich, don't own a house or car or stocks or anything expensive. When and how will the taxes help you and me? The money just ends up going to a black hole for the government to spent inefficiently. And if you are in the US, the money gets spent on funding the military industrial complex for bombing more countries, regime changes, intelligence agencies,…

In Australia, I like: - parks - museums - libraries - free primary and secondary education - subsidised tertiary/vocational education - a (relative of course) functioning public transport system - healthcare - worker protections - other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting Sure, government is inefficient. All large orgs are. But are you telling me for-profit corporations are going to create a society with all these things f…

If you like it, is it unreasonable to assume that you would be willing pay for it without being taxed?

And how is it more moral to take someone's money to subsidize services they have no use for (say, parks) than to force a park user to pay for its use?

> But are you telling me for-profit corporations are going to create a society with all these things for everyone?

There are private museums, libraries, schools, healthcare, parks. They shouldn't be built for "everyone", they should be built just for the folks who would use them (and pay the economic price).

If stuff from that list can't be done without government "investment" and backstopping, it shouldn't be done at all. We're not talking about national defense budget - it's very easy to see that government has no business getting involved with anything from your list.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by Sebguer »

bojangleslover wrote: post #193
pbourke wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Netherlands has the highest English proficiency in the world [0] (among non-native speaking countries) so I imagine it would be a compelling choice. [0] https://www.ef.com/wwen/epi/

I'm Far more comfortable as a native English speaker in Amsterdam or Copenhagen than London or NYC.

Why?

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by oaiey »

kory wrote: post #189

Government should prove it can spend the money well before asking for more. The waste and incompetence I see in government is astounding. It's much worse than anything I've seen in private corporations. Speaking specifically for America, the government can barely even agree on where it wants to spend its current "budget". Say you have a couple who constantly fights over how to spend their $10m/yr budget, of which nea…

This is not about asking for more money. This is about companies cannot fleeing rational tax rates of normal countries into countries which specialize in "stealing" the companies from normal countries and making this their code business.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by zeorin »

eru wrote: post #159
pbourke wrote: post #103

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The Netherlands has the highest English proficiency in the world [0] (among non-native speaking countries) so I imagine it would be a compelling choice. [0] https://www.ef.com/wwen/epi/

Yes, though still not quite as compelling, because you still have to speak Dutch eg at the playground.

You really don't, unless you are a young child. At 10 I was already conversant in English.

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by WaxProlix »

ssb1 wrote: post #192
rtpg wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I mean… Ireland has a higher English proficiency? There are of course a lot of things doable fully in English. But when running a company not mastering the native language (even when all of the people you talk to speak English!) can be a big drawback.

I'm willing to bet that an American would understand the English spoken in Amsterdam better than that spoken in pubs or on playgrounds in Ireland.

What about in office spaces?

Re: Ireland joins OECD International Tax agreement

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Post by oaiey »

m0zg wrote: post #4

Ireland is about to discover how unattractive it is as a locale for multinational HQs when the playing field is somewhat more level. And I'm in favor of the move as a middle class US taxpayer and a small business owner who pays through the nose, but this is a quite obvious self-own in the long run for them, much for the same reason why introducing a wealth tax was a self-own for France. Big Money is mobile, sophistic…

They are still native English speakers, more compatible with the anglo-american law and have a two hour shorter flight time to New York.

That is still solid when it comes to advantages.

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