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Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Post by jjcon »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #30
jjcon wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Brave being webkit, it's not an alternative. Brave is Blink not webkit - Blink has been developed by Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Intel and many others. It is the standard for web rendering just as linux is for web hosting. There is nothing wrong with open standards.

The fact you state blink is a standard is everything that is wrong with browser monoculture. It's like we didn't learn anything from IE6. Also blink is just a fork of webkit.

>everything that is wrong with browser monoculture

What exactly is wrong with open standards? Would you say linux creates a hosting monoculture? That's just ridiculous. Blink has been contributed to by just about every major tech company, that isn't a monoculture thats how open standards work.

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

jjcon wrote: post #28
throwaway661885 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not as open as one would think. The corporations have too much control over it that if someone forks it, they will be left behind. Check how syncing was disabled in chromium recently.

>if someone forks it, they will be left behind Is gecko any different in this regard? That is how forking works. >The corporations have too much control over it Blink seems better in this regard, it has received major contributions from just about every major tech company out there diversifying its control. Gecko has been primarily just mozilla (especially these days since it only represents about 3% of the market).

So the worst and most powerful IT corporations in the world spreading their vision as a world standard VS a non profit offering ecosystem diversity ?

I guess I lost my touch, I've been feeding the troll.

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Post by slater »

sudobash1 wrote: post #20

I'm not sure how long this message has been here, but Firefox does have this note on it's website[1]: > We haven't quite hit our mark. We've received feedback that it's difficult to figure out which Firefox experience you've got enabled. We are hard at work to address this and continue to improve the feature. [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/navigate-web-faster-fir...

Every 6 months or so, Mozilla's marketing team tries something that is clearly, obviously NOT wanted by Joe & Jane Random User, then quickly posts an "oopsie, who could've known, we'll do better!" blog update.

Tiring, and so easily avoidable.

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

jjcon wrote: post #31
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact you state blink is a standard is everything that is wrong with browser monoculture. It's like we didn't learn anything from IE6. Also blink is just a fork of webkit.

>everything that is wrong with browser monoculture What exactly is wrong with open standards? Would you say linux creates a hosting monoculture? That's just ridiculous. Blink has been contributed to by just about every major tech company, that isn't a monoculture thats how open standards work.

"standard": https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65606295.jpg

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Post by jjcon »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #34
jjcon wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>everything that is wrong with browser monoculture What exactly is wrong with open standards? Would you say linux creates a hosting monoculture? That's just ridiculous. Blink has been contributed to by just about every major tech company, that isn't a monoculture thats how open standards work.

"standard": https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65606295.jpg

Kinda rich coming from someone that doesn't know the difference between blink and webkit

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Post by a5aAqU »

> Unfortunately, all major browsers now use a combined address and search bar. So, if you’re typing in the address of a sensitive website to go directly there, your keystrokes as you type will be sent to your default search engine and your search engine may be able to determine the website address you’re typing in manually.

That's why it's a good idea to split the search box in the Firefox settings. Ctrl-l takes you to the address bar which doesn't load any remote data, and ctrl-k takes you to the search box on the right, which does send keystrokes to the search engine.

Settings → Search → Add search bar in toolbar (check that box)

Also uncheck "Show search suggestions in address bar results"

Problem solved, for now.

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Post by jjcon »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #32
jjcon wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>if someone forks it, they will be left behind Is gecko any different in this regard? That is how forking works. >The corporations have too much control over it Blink seems better in this regard, it has received major contributions from just about every major tech company out there diversifying its control. Gecko has been primarily just mozilla (especially these days since it only represents about 3% of the market).

So the worst and most powerful IT corporations in the world spreading their vision as a world standard VS a non profit offering ecosystem diversity ? I guess I lost my touch, I've been feeding the troll.

>a non profit offering ecosystem diversity

You mean mozilia where over 70% of their revenue is from google?

https://www.ghacks.net/2020/12/10/mozillas-revenue-jumped-to...

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Post by charcircuit »

brutal_chaos_ wrote: post #3

Does a serious alternative to Firefox exist? I mean an alternative that is what Firefox purports to be? I'm ready to make the switch. Been with Mozilla since Pheonix, but the user hostility has become too much.

Have you heard of Chrome. It's made by Google, the company behind the most popular search engine. It's fast and has lots of features. It's got pretty popular over the last several years. I recommend checking it out.

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Post by charcircuit »

a5aAqU wrote: post #36

> Unfortunately, all major browsers now use a combined address and search bar. So, if you’re typing in the address of a sensitive website to go directly there, your keystrokes as you type will be sent to your default search engine and your search engine may be able to determine the website address you’re typing in manually. That's why it's a good idea to split the search box in the Firefox settings. Ctrl-l takes you…

Most if not all of the bundled search engines send the data over HTTPS and do not save what you type or assign it to your account. There is nothing to worry about.
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