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Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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A 700+point related post from yesterday that was flagged as a dupe because another with 80 points had been posted previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28783381

I think it's interestingly different from that other HN thread (and its dupe). This story is about this consent dialog [0] -- particularly the sneaky "not now" in the top corner -- that weren't mentioned at all in the (mozilla.org) article submission. I think most HN'ers aren't even aware of it (or at least I can't find any specific comments about it -- in fact I read multiple comments where I believe HN'ers misunderstood the dark pattern, thinking Firefox had automatically opted them in, when more likely they clicked the wrong option. ("Customize in settings", instead of "Not now")).

[0] https://regmedia.co.uk/2021/10/07/suggest.jpg

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

#6

Does a serious alternative to Firefox exist? I mean an alternative that is what Firefox purports to be? I'm ready to make the switch. Been with Mozilla since Pheonix, but the user hostility has become too much.

I know some get annoyed with this answer but if you look into what the Brave team is doing they have a lot of really interesting projects in the works. I've had a great experience with Brave.

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Does a serious alternative to Firefox exist? I mean an alternative that is what Firefox purports to be? I'm ready to make the switch. Been with Mozilla since Pheonix, but the user hostility has become too much.

You could give Waterfox a try.

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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Does a serious alternative to Firefox exist? I mean an alternative that is what Firefox purports to be? I'm ready to make the switch. Been with Mozilla since Pheonix, but the user hostility has become too much.

Personal opinion:

There is an entire economy and ecosystem based on rewarding sinister web design. The complexity and resources involved in keeping pace with contemporary garbage while qualifying simply as a functional browser is too vast. So much that I suspect it's all downhill from here. I don't believe we'll ever see an all around user-friendly, privacy respecting, well designed, functional browser. I'd delight in being wrong here, but sincerely doubt it.

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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post #6

Does a serious alternative to Firefox exist? I mean an alternative that is what Firefox purports to be? I'm ready to make the switch. Been with Mozilla since Pheonix, but the user hostility has become too much.

I know some get annoyed with this answer but if you look into what the Brave team is doing they have a lot of really interesting projects in the works. I've had a great experience with Brave.

Please no

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28746873

Edit - Also 'Ublock Origin' works best with Firefox

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26755252

Re: Firefox: Dark pattern consent dialog invites users to share their location

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post #6

Does a serious alternative to Firefox exist? I mean an alternative that is what Firefox purports to be? I'm ready to make the switch. Been with Mozilla since Pheonix, but the user hostility has become too much.

I know some get annoyed with this answer but if you look into what the Brave team is doing they have a lot of really interesting projects in the works. I've had a great experience with Brave.

Brave being webkit, it's not an alternative.
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