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Raymond Hill created the uBlock ad blocker, and now maintains uBlock Origin ( https://github.com/gorhill )
Why is Raymond Hill not working on uBlock anymore? Why is there uBlock and uBlock Origin?
Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
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Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#122I don't see any mention of developer tools, but in case anyone working on this is here, that's something that would probably be interesting to the HN crowd. Since the home page has a screenshot of HN, I'm guessing devs are the target market.
It has ‘em (as seen in Safari). You can put the inspector button in your header bar through the customization menu and I think they’re pretty good. One thing to note is that even with caching disabled in the dev tools it caches aggressively, which is why I don’t usually use it for development. But that’s why it’s a beta :-)
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#123Is there any crossplatform WebKit browser?
Not any more to my knowledge. But if Orion becomes a success there might be one! (founder here) Current situation is - WebKit works great on Linux so that is not a problem. We've built WebKit on Windows too and while it works, it's not great. We are talking few developer-years of effort there (performance is main issue).
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#124A bit of a tangent, but not that much: I loathe the new Safari “tabs”, with as much scare as you can get in those scare quotes. But, I still can’t leave Safari be, as I appreciate the history and Keychain sync with my iOS devices. It’s that tight macOS/iOS integration that makes me stay on Safari, along with the relatively lighter energy usage versus Chrome. This looks nice in terms of using native UIKit elements (pr…
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
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Not any more to my knowledge. But if Orion becomes a success there might be one! (founder here) Current situation is - WebKit works great on Linux so that is not a problem. We've built WebKit on Windows too and while it works, it's not great. We are talking few developer-years of effort there (performance is main issue).
Why does WebKit perform poorly on Windows?
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#126Hey everyone, I am the founder behind Orion, bootstrapping the project. Started working on it three years ago with a small team just to see if it would be possible to build something like this from scratch and we just kept going. Orion is today a daily browser for a few dozen beta-testers and it warms my heart to see that we got that far considering the competition. Few questions about Orion answered that I see pop p…
This looks like a very interesting project! Do you have plans to support anything like Firefox Containers? They're a really fantastic feature for the privacy-conscious.
Imagine a menu:
Open in New Tab
Open in New Private Tab
Open in New Container
Open in New Window
Open in New Private Window
Open in New Container Window
+ Tab groups! Oh my...
It is a bit too much, needs to be simplified.
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"Kagi - Better Web for our Children" Well... It's a pass from me. Anything claiming something is "think of the children" is at best facetious.
> "Kagi - Better Web for our Children" > Well... It's a pass from me. Anything claiming something is "think of the children" is at best facetious. That's taking it too far. It's really good to "think of the children," it's just that we have to be mindful of when that's used as a smokescreen to distract from a particular policy's highly objectionable consequences. That kind of expression also has multiple senses (e.g.…
I thought we'll have time to figure it out before we launch but it did end up getting featured on HN unexpectedly.
The core of the idea is a 'more humane web' and we will be adjusting the messaging accordingly in the future.
Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac
#128A bit of a tangent, but not that much: I loathe the new Safari “tabs”, with as much scare as you can get in those scare quotes. But, I still can’t leave Safari be, as I appreciate the history and Keychain sync with my iOS devices. It’s that tight macOS/iOS integration that makes me stay on Safari, along with the relatively lighter energy usage versus Chrome. This looks nice in terms of using native UIKit elements (pr…
Long term Safari fan here. The new tabs have terrible UX but what's worse is stability. Whoever is "at fault" there - don't try to use jira with the latest Safari as it will crash eventually.
I'm not used to Safari being buggy. It's part of why I've stuck with it for years.
I'm actually kind of loving the tab groups—it's a little weird to me that we have that and the concept of a window, still, and the two are separate, but whatever—but the tab UI itself is really, really bad.
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#129I'd use this if you can remove all the Apple crap features: - All the crap of AI / machine learning to prevent cross-site tracking that's useless to me in "Private Browsing" mode - just give me back control over cookies (manually and through third-party extensions), and keep Apple away from my data. - Remove the crap "Web Advertising: Allow privacy-preserving measurement of ad effectiveness" code from webkit. Keep ad…
Private Browsing, on its own, can only limit the scope of cross-site tracking to a single Private Browsing session. It does not prevent cross-site tracking within that session. (For example, if you visit two web sites within a Private Browsing session which both use Facebook widgets, Facebook may be able to correlate your activity across those sites.)
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I count Brave's emphasis on crypto as a pro and necessary for our hopefully one day ad-less future. If you block ads without allowing the ability to donate a token you are effectively stealing from site owners and causing the rise of paywalls and other restrictions on the internet.
> you are effectively stealing from site owners This is "you wouldn't download a car" level argument.
If no one is viewing the site, it probably doesn't cost anything.
Once people start using the site, it starts costing resources to run it.
Currently, there's two ways to pay for those resources, ads or subscriptions.
BAT allows you to easily take tips and continue the service for free that people expect, without ads.