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Re: 136 Countries agree to minimum corporate tax rate

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Did something happen to cause mutual cooperation between most of the planet to be viewed as a bad thing? All these countries have come to an agreement by negotiation instead of economic or martial war. Why is there such pessimism/paranoia about this deal in this thread?

HN is dominated by temporarily embarrassed billionaires.

At least in the sense of loud writers and not quiet readers.

Re: 136 Countries agree to minimum corporate tax rate

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post #23

Did something happen to cause mutual cooperation between most of the planet to be viewed as a bad thing? All these countries have come to an agreement by negotiation instead of economic or martial war. Why is there such pessimism/paranoia about this deal in this thread?

Globalism is inherently fragile. This is part of a continued trend which has enough inertia to carry us to an inflection point where it could conceivably destroy everything human, either in real terms or something less tractable. We made a wrong turn a very long time ago, and since we've been extraordinarily misdirected but inextricably committed to the mistake we've made. We're totally in the dark, and truth becomes…

This is a lot of doomsaying, with no evidence and very little details or logic. It's like you expect your reader to already agree with you and nod along to "mistake" and "misdirected" and all the other negative language you use without any explanation of what you're actually talking about.

> We made a wrong turn a very long time ago

What, inventing agriculture? Certainly some think that. Otherwise: what are you talking about?

> translated from a moral domain to a material domain, which was finally transposed to a symbolic one.

What? Can you explain what this is supposed to mean?

Re: 136 Countries agree to minimum corporate tax rate

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post #23

Did something happen to cause mutual cooperation between most of the planet to be viewed as a bad thing? All these countries have come to an agreement by negotiation instead of economic or martial war. Why is there such pessimism/paranoia about this deal in this thread?

Operating under the assumption that most replies are from US citizens: the people of the US have a love/hate relationship with taxes. Most of the time theyre fine with taxing others so that they could reap the benefits, they just dont want to be taxed themselves.

Re: 136 Countries agree to minimum corporate tax rate

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post #23

Did something happen to cause mutual cooperation between most of the planet to be viewed as a bad thing? All these countries have come to an agreement by negotiation instead of economic or martial war. Why is there such pessimism/paranoia about this deal in this thread?

Corporate tax in general is the wrong type of taxation.

Corporate tax can be controlled by the company itself. If you run your business economically, you pay more corporate tax. This is just wrong.

Re: 136 Countries agree to minimum corporate tax rate

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post #23

Did something happen to cause mutual cooperation between most of the planet to be viewed as a bad thing? All these countries have come to an agreement by negotiation instead of economic or martial war. Why is there such pessimism/paranoia about this deal in this thread?

Corporate tax in general is the wrong type of taxation. Corporate tax can be controlled by the company itself. If you run your business economically, you pay more corporate tax. This is just wrong.

You, the consumer, pay the corporate tax.

Re: 136 Countries agree to minimum corporate tax rate

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post #23

Did something happen to cause mutual cooperation between most of the planet to be viewed as a bad thing? All these countries have come to an agreement by negotiation instead of economic or martial war. Why is there such pessimism/paranoia about this deal in this thread?

Globalism is inherently fragile. This is part of a continued trend which has enough inertia to carry us to an inflection point where it could conceivably destroy everything human, either in real terms or something less tractable. We made a wrong turn a very long time ago, and since we've been extraordinarily misdirected but inextricably committed to the mistake we've made. We're totally in the dark, and truth becomes…

What you just wrote is a lot of verbal diarrhea without any examples or backing at all.

Re: 136 Countries agree to minimum corporate tax rate

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Globalism is inherently fragile. This is part of a continued trend which has enough inertia to carry us to an inflection point where it could conceivably destroy everything human, either in real terms or something less tractable. We made a wrong turn a very long time ago, and since we've been extraordinarily misdirected but inextricably committed to the mistake we've made. We're totally in the dark, and truth becomes…

This is a lot of doomsaying, with no evidence and very little details or logic. It's like you expect your reader to already agree with you and nod along to "mistake" and "misdirected" and all the other negative language you use without any explanation of what you're actually talking about. > We made a wrong turn a very long time ago What, inventing agriculture? Certainly some think that. Otherwise: what are you talki…

I don't understand the comment you replied to either. To my naive mind it sounds like a lot of words put together to make it look like something deep, but that doesn't actually mean something. It'd be happy to be showed wrong here with historical events to describe "the wrong" turns and such to be able to tell if it's not just a abstraction or feelings that went a bit to far.

Could it be a lot of words to describe an interpretation of globalization as a perceived single point of failure across every subsection of civilization/humanity?

Re: 136 Countries agree to minimum corporate tax rate

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Globalism is inherently fragile. This is part of a continued trend which has enough inertia to carry us to an inflection point where it could conceivably destroy everything human, either in real terms or something less tractable. We made a wrong turn a very long time ago, and since we've been extraordinarily misdirected but inextricably committed to the mistake we've made. We're totally in the dark, and truth becomes…

This is a lot of doomsaying, with no evidence and very little details or logic. It's like you expect your reader to already agree with you and nod along to "mistake" and "misdirected" and all the other negative language you use without any explanation of what you're actually talking about. > We made a wrong turn a very long time ago What, inventing agriculture? Certainly some think that. Otherwise: what are you talki…

>> We made a wrong turn a very long time ago

> What, inventing agriculture? Certainly some think that.

Are there really people who believe that? I've only read it in Sapiens by YN Harari, and it sounded like a ridiculous idea written to provoke thought, not an actual opinion. "Yes, hunter-gatherers could starve on a bad year, and they sometimes got eaten by tigers, but look at how un-alienated they were!"

The author probably wouldn't have been to write his book or share these thoughts to more than 30 people without the invention of agriculture...

Re: 136 Countries agree to minimum corporate tax rate

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post #23

Did something happen to cause mutual cooperation between most of the planet to be viewed as a bad thing? All these countries have come to an agreement by negotiation instead of economic or martial war. Why is there such pessimism/paranoia about this deal in this thread?

Globalism is inherently fragile. This is part of a continued trend which has enough inertia to carry us to an inflection point where it could conceivably destroy everything human, either in real terms or something less tractable. We made a wrong turn a very long time ago, and since we've been extraordinarily misdirected but inextricably committed to the mistake we've made. We're totally in the dark, and truth becomes…

> Globalism is inherently fragile > Every move towards globalism is increasingly dangerous, this is no exception.

I don’t really agree in the slightest unless you’re making the claim that all political systems above the family level are inherently fragile in which case it’s a moot point. The previous international standard was war when there were major disagreements. Globalism has helped make the entire planet relatively(relative is doing a lot of heavy lifting here but still counts) peaceful compared to the past

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