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Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

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Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#51

Is it possible to create a free speech reddit alternative that doesn't immediately turn into a right wing extremist site? My mind immediately turns to the Paradox of Tolerance, and I think the answer is no.

What do you mean by "free speech?" "Unmoderated?" "Uncensored?" "Speech not limited by the government?"

In the US "hate speech" is legally protected as free speech (although hate speech has no concrete definition).

Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#52
post #48

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ah yes, making fun of people dying is okay as long as you obscure the names! the same people that like to respond with "700,000+ dead"! this is the same reason /r/fatpeoplehate got banned is it not? yes the intent may be to "help through shaming" but it's not usually allowed, guess it's okay because of the political lean. ironically, shaming the fat people would help the covid thing most of all as it's the #1 morbidi…

I wasn't active in the community, but I believe r/fatpeoplehate was mostly unsolicited photographs ("creepshots") of overweight people and making fun of them. It appears r/hermancainaward is 100% based on posts that the deceased willingly shared with the public. I think that's a meaningful difference.

So as long as you obtain the obituary from the public and obscure the name, you're totally fine with making fun of people dying, got it!

So much better people on Reddit. Much compassion, such intelligence. So advanced.

Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#53
post #15

Folks, please use your words. Some of us are just trying to make it through Friday without having to login and use show-dead to see both sides of a discussion.

I've sometimes thought that downvotes shouldn't count for much when given by someone who doesn't reply. Count them, just not with nearly as much weight as someone who is willing to explain their disagreement. We already have flagging for marking something is inappropriate.

Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#54
post #45

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your definition of an extremist is certainly lax isn't it? I'd designate someone an extremist if they were plotting to do something, not some edgy comment that you'd find anywhere. There's hundreds of comments on reddit wishing death, that doesn't make those people "extremists".

Ah, the edgelord defense, a Tried and True practice. One issue is that the entire thread is _only_ edgelords in that model. I couldn't find anybody on that page speaking out against the ideas espoused by the poster. As for "comment that you'd find anywhere", I know a few places where I wouldn't find such comments. Not because oh-the-oppression, but because people don't engage with them in the same way as on that page…

On Reddit they have an entire subreddit for making fun of people's death. Reddit is the edgelord's gala.

Anytime a Republican got sick, they'd wish for them to die throughout the front page.

Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#55
post #41

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I could see some people finding it in bad taste, but since all names are obscured, what specifically is bannable about that community?

ah yes, making fun of people dying is okay as long as you obscure the names! the same people that like to respond with "700,000+ dead"! this is the same reason /r/fatpeoplehate got banned is it not? yes the intent may be to "help through shaming" but it's not usually allowed, guess it's okay because of the political lean. ironically, shaming the fat people would help the covid thing most of all as it's the #1 morbidi…

>ah yes, making fun of people dying is okay as long as you obscure the names!

Yes. You've made up an imaginary enemy in your head and you are talking down to others based on the imaginary Reddit company in your head.

The reason those other communities were banned were for targeted harassment, doxing of real people, and brigading other subreddits. Reddit has never stated that they were any rules on the "morality" of the content. The communities that are still around have not broken those rules yet.

Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#56
post #50

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your definition of an extremist is certainly lax isn't it? I'd designate someone an extremist if they were plotting to do something, not some edgy comment that you'd find anywhere. There's hundreds of comments on reddit wishing death, that doesn't make those people "extremists".

Bullshit. It’s generally acknowledged by everyone whose IQ exceeds their shoe size, that wishing death upon politicians is extremism. Stop defending this kind of shit - it’s not defensible no matter how much you clutch your pearls and whine about your freedumb.

So if I find you one instance where someone wished death on Reddit that has +1 upvote (like this submission) you'll concede that Reddit is an extremist site right?

Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#57

While these "free speech" Reddit alternatives end up taking a far-right tone, what's funny is how all discussions they host have to be approached from that angle. So you can't just talk about your favorite TV show. You have to first make a nod to how it features a Jewish conspiracy to push black-white interracial relationships. Only then can you go on to discuss the actual episode.

you had to do that on reddit every time you discussed trump.

"I loathe that racist, I didn't vote for him, but I thought it was funny that he said... blah blah"

conforming to groupthink and avoiding judgement by the ingroup is a major problem across the "free world". regardless of political leanings.

Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#58

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ah yes, making fun of people dying is okay as long as you obscure the names! the same people that like to respond with "700,000+ dead"! this is the same reason /r/fatpeoplehate got banned is it not? yes the intent may be to "help through shaming" but it's not usually allowed, guess it's okay because of the political lean. ironically, shaming the fat people would help the covid thing most of all as it's the #1 morbidi…

> ah yes, making fun of people dying is okay as long as you obscure the names! Yes. You've made up an imaginary enemy in your head and you are talking down to others based on the imaginary Reddit company in your head. The reason those other communities were banned were for targeted harassment, doxing of real people, and brigading other subreddits. Reddit has never stated that they were any rules on the "morality" of…

> Reddit has never stated that they were any rules on the "morality" of the content.

Cool, so both sides don't have rules on morality and the only speech moderation we should be worried about on any site is illegal speech. I agree.

Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#59
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wasn't active in the community, but I believe r/fatpeoplehate was mostly unsolicited photographs ("creepshots") of overweight people and making fun of them. It appears r/hermancainaward is 100% based on posts that the deceased willingly shared with the public. I think that's a meaningful difference.

So as long as you obtain the obituary from the public and obscure the name, you're totally fine with making fun of people dying, got it! So much better people on Reddit. Much compassion, such intelligence. So advanced.

This doesn't seem like a productive conversation. Peace.

Re: Ruqqus, an open source Reddit clone, is shutting down their main instance

#60
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So as long as you obtain the obituary from the public and obscure the name, you're totally fine with making fun of people dying, got it! So much better people on Reddit. Much compassion, such intelligence. So advanced.

This doesn't seem like a productive conversation. Peace.

Have a nice day!
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