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Re: Jonathan's Card shut down

#5

Post by sorbus »

yuvipanda wrote: post #3

Wonder if the 'iPad hack' had anything to do with this...

Probably. One of the statuses on the facebook page begins "All we can hope for in life is a strong moral compass that helps guide us in doing the right thing and when something happens that might seem unfair we need to realize that those incidences are in the minority."

Of course, since they're saying that "Starbucks has informed me that they will be shutting off the card", it's also possible that Starbucks has some reason to shut it off that's entirely unrelated to that.

Re: Jonathan's Card shut down

#6

Post by Cushman »

sorbus wrote: post #5
yuvipanda wrote: post #3

Wonder if the 'iPad hack' had anything to do with this...

Probably. One of the statuses on the facebook page begins "All we can hope for in life is a strong moral compass that helps guide us in doing the right thing and when something happens that might seem unfair we need to realize that those incidences are in the minority." Of course, since they're saying that "Starbucks has informed me that they will be shutting off the card", it's also possible that Starbucks has some…

I'd imagine Starbucks was loving the free publicity as long as it was working, but when things started to turn sour they didn't want the controversy and decided to assert their rights.

Re: Jonathan's Card shut down

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Post by sebkomianos »

Thing is, it was an experiment from the very beginning. Experiments don't have good and bad guys, only observations and results. And the observation isn't a new one: "systems" like that work nicely until the first few exploits.

Re: Jonathan's Card shut down

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Post by Cushman »

So, this isn't necessarily because of Sam Odio, but everyone's thinking it.

And... duh. The take-a-penny, leave-a-penny trays only work when more pennies follow the rules than don't. If somebody comes along every day to empty out the tray — even if they're bringing it right across the street to the Salvation Army — they're going to take the trays away. That's just not what they're for, and if they're not working there's no reason for them to exist.

The net result in the end being that the homeless are still homeless, life is a little bit more of a hassle for shoppers who don't have the right change, people are a little bit less connected with each other, and the dick who was emptying the trays feels like he's "made his point," whatever it was supposed to be.

But all of that being said: This only applies when abuse makes the system unsustainable. Is it? Craig's Cup thinks not: http://www.facebook.com/Craigscup The "experiment" is far from over.

Re: Jonathan's Card shut down

#9

Post by mikeleeorg »

Cushman wrote: post #6
sorbus wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably. One of the statuses on the facebook page begins "All we can hope for in life is a strong moral compass that helps guide us in doing the right thing and when something happens that might seem unfair we need to realize that those incidences are in the minority." Of course, since they're saying that "Starbucks has informed me that they will be shutting off the card", it's also possible that Starbucks has some…

I'd imagine Starbucks was loving the free publicity as long as it was working, but when things started to turn sour they didn't want the controversy and decided to assert their rights.

The social media team at Starbucks struck me as being fairly social-media-savvy. I have some doubts - or at least a lot of confusion - over why they'd want to shut this down now. The publicity wasn't _that_ negative. It seemed like they stood to gain a lot for it continuing to work out too.

But I suppose we'll never know the true story. Whatever the case, I think it's a sad shame.

(I also hope this doesn't kill Jonathan's spirit.)

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